Hi there - a bit newbie and a bit not at all...

Been using clrmamepro for years on mame-roms, and just tried it on Vpinmame-roms. Now I would like to use it on the tables too, but I'm not getting it - how? Got the datfiles (dl'd from RomManager-site) and loads the dat-file for the tables just like for the roms and creates something in the profiler. But what do I do in the scanner? I cant find any Tables-path-line only sets, roms etc. (tried both, but failed) ... anyone got a clue?

erling1000

> Hi there - a bit newbie and a bit not at all...
>
> Been using clrmamepro for years on mame-roms, and just tried it on
> Vpinmame-roms. Now I would like to use it on the tables too, but I'm not getting
> it - how? Got the datfiles (dl'd from RomManager-site) and loads the dat-file
> for the tables just like for the roms and creates something in the profiler. But
> what do I do in the scanner? I cant find any Tables-path-line only sets, roms
> etc. (tried both, but failed) ... anyone got a clue?
>
> erling1000
>



You use non-rom specific data (e.g. png files for MAME misc artwork) in the same way as you know it from MAME with roms. Sets stay sets of files, roms correspond to the files inside the sets, so anything with a given length and checksum and a name.

You only have to care about setting up rompaths correctly. Always keep in mind the 2 scan modes:

rompath\setname\file 1 ... file n for unzipped sets
rompath\setname.zip for zippped sets where file 1..file n are stored in the zipfile.

So take a look at the used datfile and setup rompaths accordingly.


Roman Scherzer

> > Hi there - a bit newbie and a bit not at all...
> >
> > Been using clrmamepro for years on mame-roms, and just tried it on
> > Vpinmame-roms. Now I would like to use it on the tables too, but I'm not
> getting
> > it - how? Got the datfiles (dl'd from RomManager-site) and loads the dat-file
> > for the tables just like for the roms and creates something in the profiler.
> But
> > what do I do in the scanner? I cant find any Tables-path-line only sets, roms
> > etc. (tried both, but failed) ... anyone got a clue?
> >
> > erling1000
> >
>
>
>
> You use non-rom specific data (e.g. png files for MAME misc artwork) in the same
> way as you know it from MAME with roms. Sets stay sets of files, roms correspond
> to the files inside the sets, so anything with a given length and checksum and a
> name.
>
> You only have to care about setting up rompaths correctly. Always keep in mind
> the 2 scan modes:
>
> rompath\setname\file 1 ... file n for unzipped sets
> rompath\setname.zip for zippped sets where file 1..file n are stored in the
> zipfile.
>
> So take a look at the used datfile and setup rompaths accordingly.
>
>
> Roman Scherzer
>

"Sets stay sets of files, roms correspond to the files inside the sets"

- This means my tables and romfiles should be in one zip (one for each pinball-game - rom agent777.zip and table Agents 777 in same zip and maybe all other agents 777-files too)?

"Always keep in mind the 2 scan modes:
rompath\setname\file 1 ... file n for unzipped sets
rompath\setname.zip for zippped sets where file 1..file n are stored in the zipfile."

- Well I never did scan for sets before... allways just for roms, using cmpro.

"So take a look at the used datfile and setup rompaths accordingly."

- I guess you're right - will try... :)

Thanks and bye for now

erling1000

> - This means my tables and romfiles should be in one zip (one for each
> pinball-game - rom agent777.zip and table Agents 777 in same zip and maybe all
> other agents 777-files too)?


No. The datfile tells you what belongs to which set. A table datfile usually includes only table related files, not roms.


> - Well I never did scan for sets before... allways just for roms, using cmpro.

Argh...sets should be ALWAYS enabled.


> "So take a look at the used datfile and setup rompaths accordingly."
>
> - I guess you're right - will try... :)


Take a look at the datfile (e.g. in a texteditor) and look how sets are specified. I guess one set per table...if you don't see anything remarkable, you can use the rebuilder and simply drag'n drop anything you got...


Roman Scherzer

Ok- Roman - thanks...

Well, I'm not all skilled in this - so you noticed ;)

I find it a bit difficult doing what you told me to - don't know what excactly I'm looking for...

Maybe you can tell me?

below is a paste from the start of the datfile and lower yet from the ending of the datfile:

bye for now... erling1000

datfile start:
____________________________________________________________

clrmamepro (
name "Visual Pinball Original Tables"
description "Visual Pinball Original Tables (20051030)"
category "Pinball"
version "20051030"
author "yori yoshizuki"
)

game (
name "....Dead [Original]"
description "....Dead [Original]"
rom ( name "....Dead (Wrenchien) (1.0).vpt" size 1318912 crc 0x32d2cdfd sha1 0x29dc3c3d946f16326e9950c064e8f5b7799b0041 )
rom ( name "....Dead (Wrenchien) (1.0a).vpt" size 1318912 crc 0x981e789f sha1 0x93e04a7e3be4895ece3104946392a3f9f70e17f4 )
)

game (
name "....Deader [Original]"
description "....Deader [Original]"
rom ( name "....Deader (Wrenchien) (1.0).vpt" size 2721280 crc 0x3e7df314 sha1 0x8f42f52df908bfd85aa62613ccade6caf08a9c9e )
)

game (
name "....Deadest [Original]"
description "....Deadest [Original]"
rom ( name "....Deadest (Wrenchien) (1.0).vpt" size 4378112 crc 0x0b4beb08 sha1 0x13fa7169624e818ea9b354fdf84b6c2e8e69acb5 )
rom ( name "....Deadest screenshot.jpg" size 47858 crc 0x9bd477e5 sha1 0xdd5f1b68b23767b7f467bbaf639c9536d7d8d532 )
)

game (
name "007 Agent Under Fire [Original]"
description "007 Agent Under Fire [Original]"
rom ( name "007 Agent Under Fire (Chris Briggs) (1.0).vpt" size 1856512 crc 0xd421cfa2 sha1 0x4be6d1badfb0540a74c149afe427405e99d7b64b )
rom ( name "007 Agent Under Fire screenshot.jpg" size 55213 crc 0xf1899550 sha1 0x0bfa3a6751bc4410ad8ebd2ae8ee46c1fc555b09 )
rom ( name "007 Agent Under Fire.txt" size 140 crc 0xece08808 sha1 0xc922423a6dd10855ed64da2197bc3b55d9bab2eb )
rom ( name "james bond theme.mid" size 46784 crc 0xad96e1f7 sha1 0xf2193b5bdde0033ca15908dd14a1b5b430c7428f )
)
____________________________________________________________

Datfile ending:

____________________________________________________________

game (
name "Zap Trap [Original]"
description "Zap Trap [Original]"
rom ( name "Zap Trap (Jeff) (1.0).vpt" size 1388032 crc 0x7bd2837a sha1 0x63dbda0a0f09a07c931605ad10494495c7cc659a )
rom ( name zapintro.mp3 size 140322 crc 0x53573fe7 sha1 0xad4c8db9e3b6a76cab517e9384795156bd2be79c )
rom ( name zaptrap.mp3 size 1115660 crc 0x9a59e088 sha1 0x4be36855be6b58ffc19b029a02160a45eee1d606 )
)

game (
name "Zapper [Original]"
description "Zapper [Original]"
rom ( name "Zapper (Wrenchien2) (1.0).vpt" size 5570048 crc 0xc756be3d sha1 0xb38dd5932885c37668a49b109ee05495b0ac1d9e )
rom ( name "Zapper screenshot.gif" size 53841 crc 0x2def7871 sha1 0x0fec432284ac73097e25abbe18a0b774c8466c6f )
)

game (
name "Zero Aw-somi [Original]"
description "Zero Aw-somi [Original]"
rom ( name "Zero Aw-somi (Wrenchien) (1.0).vpt" size 3370496 crc 0xac3bd8de sha1 0x3063111511acd007642a7eaf0049b32e5c508d6b )
)

game (
name "Zeux's World [Original]"
description "Zeux's World [Original]"
rom ( name "Zeux's World (Zaratustra) (1.0).vpt" size 167424 crc 0xb677bb6f sha1 0x0f43a80aade52293cd4a826af399a8f504bba94b )
)

game (
name "Zokko [Original]"
description "Zokko [Original]"
rom ( name edundot.ttf size 84628 crc 0x2167df41 sha1 0xc7ca77fd5e453100c0940c42d4b15e7895e2118b )
rom ( name "Zokko (Tii) (1.0).vpt" size 572416 crc 0x96edaf8f sha1 0xd9928d7beb8e4f3449d76582332ad3aed498fa3f )
)

game (
name "Zombie Pinball [Original]"
description "Zombie Pinball [Original]"
rom ( name "Zombie Pinball (RipleYYY) (1.2).vpt" size 4153856 crc 0xc9bb8bc2 sha1 0x8dbc83292d29380076516e930589fdcbdd82322c )
rom ( name "Zombie Pinball screenshot.jpg" size 59145 crc 0x74664c7f sha1 0x16537bc3f74f88ef825041e2d071f07878dae62e )
rom ( name "Zombie Pinball.txt" size 1883 crc 0xf413307e sha1 0xf69e09b7df0e76e9c8b45892ad6e669a5e374a44 )
)

game (
name "Zoned [Original]"
description "Zoned [Original]"
rom ( name "Zoned (Tii) (1.0.vpt" size 1634304 crc 0x51f4e726 sha1 0x37f4e1d7612b52106765cfe3b8aff273d85c166a )
rom ( name "Zoned screenshot.jpg" size 76017 crc 0x0a3ce6ef sha1 0xf66b4c3ec8cf739d9831c38cfd722fa23491f203 )
)

____________________________________________________________

> I find it a bit difficult doing what you told me to - don't know what excactly
> I'm looking for...


In fact...you don't have to care. The datfile lists table files grouped in sets, so you can simply setup a rompath and put the sets in there. So if your rompath is C:\pinballtables, you should have a for example a "Zap Trap [Original]" folder in there or a "Zap Trap [Original].zip" file containing the 3 listed files.
Shouldn't be a problem at all. What you can do is, simply rebuild all your misc table files to a rompath. That's the usual way to add new sets or clean up a folder of unsorted misc stuff.




Roman Scherzer

OK - I'll try that...

Thanks again, Roman.

erling1000