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Hey. I'm having a very hard time finding roms for the Final Burn emulator. I spent over an hour doing searches on Google and Yahoo and couldn't find anything. I had hoped to play Darkstalkers also known as Vampire Savior, which is listed in the Final Burn Game list. It tells me it requires these two zip files to load the game:
roms\vsav.zip
roms\savj.zip
Do you know where I can find these two files? OR, Could you please send me a website(s) where I can download roms for the Final Burn emulator? Thanks a lot! I appreciate it!

-Michael

The title of this one is YOU ARE A PIG FUCKER... nice ;)
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You computer specialists are often cold unfeeling people (having spent so much time dealing with a construction of wires, chips and electrodes) that you are unable to appreciate human nature and the less capable in computer literacy…



7 million hits and presumably an equally high number of downloads but what percentage of that number has it actually fully working and operable? Many would have downloaded your emulator with glee assuming they’d be playing the greats but have, alas, been bitterly disappointed (as they were unaware they needed ROMS or were unable to locate them). The point is it is unclear you need ROMS and that the search for these very ROMS is torture, it is your duty to notify potential users of those facts. Had you forewarned me then its my responsibility (and self-induced curse!) to go on the serpentine quest to find the ROMS!!



Once again ­ you could at least do the courtesy of linking a ROM site (as MAME and RAINE do) or do as I’ve suggested above, or many others will in their rash enthusiasm download Final Burn only to find its useless, absolutely useless, without ROMS..




And an oldy but a goodie


Hi, Dave.

First of all, let me congratulate you on your emulator!
You have managed to do something that had eluded the emulation scene since
it began: Emulate one of the greatest arcade games in history.

I worked a summer job at an arcade and by far, Afterburner 2 was (and still
is) my all time favorite game! Thanks!

On the other hand, I really do not understand how you can call your emulator
"FINAL" burn. Especially since you've not added all of the game's true and
original features. Don't get me wrong. You've done a great job as a
programmer, but still the game is not "Final" or 100% complete.

I know you get asked this a lot, but man... you need to add the dip switches
to AB-2! I think it's noble and all to give us a few more lives to play the
game, but even so, most of us are NOT able to beat this game with 1 credit
every time(or two which is what amounts with the lives you added). I HAVE
beaten the game with 1 credit countless times before. I mean I played this
sucker almost every day, and certainly the CONTINUE option does not "Kill"
the game for me as you claim. To me it enhances the playability as it gives
me another reason to hope and see those satisfying ending credits! If you'd
ask me, I'd leave the game the same way it is in the arcade: Only 3 lives,
all dipswitches enabled and be able to continue as many times as you need to
get to the end. After all, if we said that about EVERY other arcade emulator
game, where would we be at? Continuing the game by adding more credits does
NOT kill the game, just as one beer won't make you pass out. It's each
gamer's choice what and how they play their games. I used to see kids with
rolls of tokens dump 9 credits into the machine just to do a mindless play,
but most every other AB fan always used the continue as a tool, not a toy.
If not for the fans, then for whom are you creating this great emulator for?

So this is my plea, to you. You've brought us a great game and revived it
like no other. Now that we've tasted the sweets... we want the whole
enchilada! Make this a true and FINAL Burn for millions around the
world!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take care and best regards!

Sam.
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Dave,

Don't even bother coming back in four months.... Every game you have ever attempted at emulating in your poorly coded, obtuse, and mediocre at best emulator has turned out much better in MAME, a project run by real developers who want to preserve games.

Instead, your main concern appears to be worrying about your "internet reputation" and complaining over a couple people that renamed files so that they could -- good gosh! -- play one more game!! I agree it's a serious crime when emulation fans want to play games on their computer, and it's a personal attack against you when they use your progam to do it.

Your CPS2 driver is mostly based on the work of Raz and Sardu, so don't complain if somebody uses your work for something of their own -- its no different than what you yourself have done. Ordinarily I would have no problem with you leeching off of other people and taking credit for it as your own, but lately you have insulted numerous individuals and your attitude is hurting emulation more than helping it.

I hope you never return to the scene, but if you do, please try to grow up a little and act like an adult next time somebody armed with a batch file hax0rs Finalburn.

-Nick




A few days ago I received an e-mail from one of your cohorts (splish or something) who softly ridiculed me for making complaints against the lack of clarity concerning the operation of your emulator.

I sought to answer him but alas deleted the e-mail and lost his address so you’ll have to relay this e-mail as you did my previous ones….

I feel that the ‘Final Burn’ web-site should make it abundantly plain (I’m talking on the Home page of the site) two things:-

1. The successful usage of the emulator is dependent on the downloading of another item(s) that the user will have to separately acquire.

2. To procure these ROMs means embarking on an enervating search that will see you frustrated when you are repeatedly thwarted by sites that contain the required ROMs but which you must be a signed-up member to utilise (that is if you can even find these!).

Whilst many may find these complaints quaint (to those that are proficient at computers and consequently know how to get what they want) they are pertinent for those that are new or are less able to understand the workings of what is an impassive tangle of wires/electronics.




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> Hi, Dave.
>
> First of all, let me congratulate you on your emulator!
> You have managed to do something that had eluded the emulation scene since
> it began: Emulate one of the greatest arcade games in history.
>
> I worked a summer job at an arcade and by far, Afterburner 2 was (and still
> is) my all time favorite game! Thanks!
>
> On the other hand, I really do not understand how you can call your emulator
> "FINAL" burn. Especially since you've not added all of the game's true and
> original features. Don't get me wrong. You've done a great job as a
> programmer, but still the game is not "Final" or 100% complete.
>
> I know you get asked this a lot, but man... you need to add the dip switches
> to AB-2! I think it's noble and all to give us a few more lives to play the
> game, but even so, most of us are NOT able to beat this game with 1 credit
> every time(or two which is what amounts with the lives you added). I HAVE
> beaten the game with 1 credit countless times before. I mean I played this
> sucker almost every day, and certainly the CONTINUE option does not "Kill"
> the game for me as you claim. To me it enhances the playability as it gives
> me another reason to hope and see those satisfying ending credits! If you'd
> ask me, I'd leave the game the same way it is in the arcade: Only 3 lives,
> all dipswitches enabled and be able to continue as many times as you need to
> get to the end. After all, if we said that about EVERY other arcade emulator
> game, where would we be at? Continuing the game by adding more credits does
> NOT kill the game, just as one beer won't make you pass out. It's each
> gamer's choice what and how they play their games. I used to see kids with
> rolls of tokens dump 9 credits into the machine just to do a mindless play,
> but most every other AB fan always used the continue as a tool, not a toy.
> If not for the fans, then for whom are you creating this great emulator for?
>
> So this is my plea, to you. You've brought us a great game and revived it
> like no other. Now that we've tasted the sweets... we want the whole
> enchilada! Make this a true and FINAL Burn for millions around the
> world!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Take care and best regards!
>
> Sam.


Maybe it's just because it's almost 5am and I still haven't slept, but I don't get this email. I've never tried After burner 2 as well, it might explain why I don't get it. So what, it doesn't have a continue option? And the guy kinda blames you? hey btw, I couldn't beat ssf2t on level 8 with your emulator so it's all your fault ;)

Oh and I didn't knew an emu needed roms, you should have told me so, I tought it emulated AIR damnit! damn you and your "not so final" burn!

ok I'll stop being sarcastic, that was some funny emails ;)


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> > Hi, Dave.
> >
> > First of all, let me congratulate you on your emulator!
> > You have managed to do something that had eluded the emulation scene since
> > it began: Emulate one of the greatest arcade games in history.
> >
> > I worked a summer job at an arcade and by far, Afterburner 2 was (and still
> > is) my all time favorite game! Thanks!
> >
> > On the other hand, I really do not understand how you can call your emulator
> > "FINAL" burn. Especially since you've not added all of the game's true and
> > original features. Don't get me wrong. You've done a great job as a
> > programmer, but still the game is not "Final" or 100% complete.
> >
> > I know you get asked this a lot, but man... you need to add the dip switches
> > to AB-2! I think it's noble and all to give us a few more lives to play the
> > game, but even so, most of us are NOT able to beat this game with 1 credit
> > every time(or two which is what amounts with the lives you added). I HAVE
> > beaten the game with 1 credit countless times before. I mean I played this
> > sucker almost every day, and certainly the CONTINUE option does not "Kill"
> > the game for me as you claim. To me it enhances the playability as it gives
> > me another reason to hope and see those satisfying ending credits! If you'd
> > ask me, I'd leave the game the same way it is in the arcade: Only 3 lives,
> > all dipswitches enabled and be able to continue as many times as you need to
> > get to the end. After all, if we said that about EVERY other arcade emulator
> > game, where would we be at? Continuing the game by adding more credits does
> > NOT kill the game, just as one beer won't make you pass out. It's each
> > gamer's choice what and how they play their games. I used to see kids with
> > rolls of tokens dump 9 credits into the machine just to do a mindless play,
> > but most every other AB fan always used the continue as a tool, not a toy.
> > If not for the fans, then for whom are you creating this great emulator for?
> >
> > So this is my plea, to you. You've brought us a great game and revived it
> > like no other. Now that we've tasted the sweets... we want the whole
> > enchilada! Make this a true and FINAL Burn for millions around the
> > world!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Take care and best regards!
> >
> > Sam.
>
>
> Maybe it's just because it's almost 5am and I still haven't slept, but I don't
> get this email. I've never tried After burner 2 as well, it might explain why I
> don't get it. So what, it doesn't have a continue option? And the guy kinda
> blames you? hey btw, I couldn't beat ssf2t on level 8 with your emulator so it's
> all your fault ;)
>
> Oh and I didn't knew an emu needed roms, you should have told me so, I tought it
> emulated AIR damnit! damn you and your "not so final" burn!
>
> ok I'll stop being sarcastic, that was some funny emails ;)
>
>
> Testing underwear in outer space
>

> Maybe it's just because it's almost 5am and I still haven't slept, but I don't
> get this email. I've never tried After burner 2 as well, it might explain why I
> don't get it. So what, it doesn't have a continue option? And the guy kinda
> blames you?

Ah no - I confess, that was actually my fault! ;-)

Round about the time of "Atest4" (later After Burner Emu, later the infamous Final Burn) I hadn't yet programmed a dialog to change the dip switch settings, and just had them hardcoded to a value. And I realised that if you hardcoded them to Continue Option 'ON' it killed the game (you can just keep inserting coins and the plane eventually flies through all the explosions and finishes the game).

So I set the Continue Option to OFF, I love After Burner so much, I just couldn't bring myself to kill the game by allowing infinite credits.

Subsequent hate mail ensued and the option was added :-(


It would be nice in emulators to have hiscore tables related to a particular amount of credits (e.g. defaulting to 3 credits or so...). Repeatedly pressing '5' to win the game isn't fun :(




> hey btw, I couldn't beat ssf2t on level 8 with your emulator so it's
> all your fault ;)
>
> Oh and I didn't knew an emu needed roms, you should have told me so, I tought it
> emulated AIR damnit! damn you and your "not so final" burn!
>
> ok I'll stop being sarcastic, that was some funny emails ;)
>
>
> Testing underwear in outer space
>


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"
Hey yo listen up! I want some roms for this supreb
game!
I want yah to put them on your site!
you are a SHIT!
"

Honestly you couldn't make them up could you!


Newsdee's Love, Glory, and Discussion Boards

Now I understand this stuff about AB. Some people are weird I guess, if I would have been that guy, maybe I could have sent an email or post somewhere "hum sorry but is this supposed to happen, a bug or something?" thinking maybe you just didn't see it, but I wouldn't have wrote something like he did. Hell, I remember when I used to have my old nick around here, I wrote you about a problem with the sidewinder dpad, I had problems doing moves, while I had none with pc versions of the games. I've been polite, and you replied, changed some code and in the end it all turned out ok. I mean, ok maybe you remember I had problems with your attitude, as well as some other people (something I don't want to talk about anyway), but I can respect people for what they do and be polite when I need help or see a possible bug. But then, I guess not everybody can do the same, some people just have to act like dicks and bother you, as well as other emu coders (and other people) with such emails. However, I think most of these must be noobs... kids these days, eh ;)

> It would be nice in emulators to have hiscore tables related to a particular
> amount of credits (e.g. defaulting to 3 credits or so...). Repeatedly pressing
> '5' to win the game isn't fun :(

Well at least there's games that when you continue, your score go back to 0, so if you use a continue every 2 mins, your high score will be low. You just gotta beat the game with one credit to get the best high score possible. It just kills me sometimes when I play a game and lose right before the final boss, especially when there's a big bonus when you beat him!


Damn... beer sure makes me talk a lot ;)


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