Apparently, my IP address has been logged as doing some serious movie downloading via KaZaA Lite. They as yet do not know my name. Has anyone else received notices from the RIAA or MPAA or ESA (formerly IDSA)?

Suggestions for masking my IP address? According to an e-mail I received, most IP masking software is ineffective, especially since I'm on a college campus. I use KaZaA mostly because DC++ is difficult to work with (you guys are rarely on and you don't really have the movies I'm looking for and the other forums have shitty rules, erratic downloads, and few open slots if any).

I'd use BitTorrent if I knew how. Anyway, the movies are Disney movies, but the only on they could pin on my was "Beauty and the Beast." I'm planning on putting everything on CD and wiping it off the face of my hard drive and laying low for a few months. Suggestions for avoiding future problems with the MPAA? Thanks guys.


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sounds like you're in deep shit for downloading a gay movie, good luck man

All I can say is bittorrent doesn't hide your ip at all, it's widely shown to anyone

and deleting files on a hd doesn't really delete them you know, there used to be a program called shredder, now I don't know about this stuff, but don't think you're safe because you deleted it

I don't know about masking ip, but you can always block their ip, again, there used to be peer guardian but it seems it's not updated anymore, there should be an alternative of some sort


Moon the world

> Suggestions for masking my IP address? According to an e-mail I received, most
> IP masking software is ineffective, especially since I'm on a college campus. I


I'm not technically saavy in terms of networking, but wouldn't that same rule work against them? The ip points to the campus, but how does it identify you? Static addresses?

> I'd use BitTorrent if I knew how. Anyway, the movies are Disney movies, but the
> only on they could pin on my was "Beauty and the Beast." I'm planning on putting
> everything on CD and wiping it off the face of my hard drive and laying low for
> a few months. Suggestions for avoiding future problems with the MPAA? Thanks
> guys.


Torrents are much much better. Azureus is good. Dunno exactly how you'd configure it, but you could probably get it working.

Then hit some websites - I usually use Suprnova or Torrent Youceff, you can find everything there. Additionally, if you go to one of those websites and click on an info link for a file, you'll see where it originated. That way, you can find new websites that offer torrent files. It's fairly easy to setup a list of 20 or so that should be able to find you everything you need. I get everything that way, now.

CSP

> and deleting files on a hd doesn't really delete them you know, there used to be
> a program called shredder, now I don't know about this stuff, but don't think
> you're safe because you deleted it


I'm not 1000% sure about this, but I think a simple defrag of open space will delete any traces. And yeah, I'm sure there are utilities that will fix it.

CSP

I always thought downloading material was pretty safe. They must have put movies on share and then logged everyone that went to download them. I don't think that tactic would hold up in court. I mean, the company that owns the movies is giving them out for free and then busting people who take 'em?

Some selfish bad to the bone guy want to :P shit on my face. lolol just joke nt - Dany

> > and deleting files on a hd doesn't really delete them you know, there used to
> be
> > a program called shredder, now I don't know about this stuff, but don't think
> > you're safe because you deleted it
>
>
> I'm not 1000% sure about this, but I think a simple defrag of open space will
> delete any traces. And yeah, I'm sure there are utilities that will fix it.
>
> CSP
>

I grew up on Disney and thought I'd relive some memories. I especially like reliving old songs. I don't think that's gay. I mean, after all, Jerry Orbach is in it, and if you doubt Mr. Orbach's talents, I shall have to ask you to step outside.

Besides, I'm using it as part of a class project (also without Disney consent), so I want to hold on to it for a while longer.

> sounds like you're in deep shit for downloading a gay movie, good luck man
>
> All I can say is bittorrent doesn't hide your ip at all, it's widely shown to
> anyone
>
> and deleting files on a hd doesn't really delete them you know, there used to be
> a program called shredder, now I don't know about this stuff, but don't think
> you're safe because you deleted it
>
> I don't know about masking ip, but you can always block their ip, again, there
> used to be peer guardian but it seems it's not updated anymore, there should be
> an alternative of some sort
>
>
> Moon the world
>



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If so, it may be someone shitting you, or just another virus.

> Suggestions for masking my IP address? According to an e-mail I received, most
> IP masking software is ineffective, especially since I'm on a college campus. I
> use KaZaA mostly because DC++ is difficult to work with (you guys are rarely on
> and you don't really have the movies I'm looking for and the other forums have
> shitty rules, erratic downloads, and few open slots if any).

It's been a while since I have downloaded movies, but I remember the Neo-Modus DC hubs were always pretty cool and had fairly relaxed rules (aside from no DC++). The problem was that the NM software was pretty shitty. Even so, I was able to grab 100+ movies over the course of a few months. Things may have changed quite a bit since then, but it might be worth a look. It's certainly safer than Kazaa.

> I grew up on Disney and thought I'd relive some memories. I especially like
> reliving old songs. I don't think that's gay. I mean, after all, Jerry Orbach is
> in it, and if you doubt Mr. Orbach's talents, I shall have to ask you to step
> outside.
>
> Besides, I'm using it as part of a class project (also without Disney consent),
> so I want to hold on to it for a while longer.
>
> > sounds like you're in deep shit for downloading a gay movie, good luck man
> >
> > All I can say is bittorrent doesn't hide your ip at all, it's widely shown to
> > anyone
> >
> > and deleting files on a hd doesn't really delete them you know, there used to
> be
> > a program called shredder, now I don't know about this stuff, but don't think
> > you're safe because you deleted it
> >
> > I don't know about masking ip, but you can always block their ip, again, there
> > used to be peer guardian but it seems it's not updated anymore, there should
> be
> > an alternative of some sort
> >
> >
> > Moon the world
> >
>
>
>
> Fett seal of approval™
>



Moon the world

Use Norton Wipeinfo, then tell them to fuck off, and you don't know shit about it. Or just ignore them from here on. If you're on a Campus, you'll have no problem making it look like someone used your computer without your knowledge. Use the fact, that the "burden of proof" is their problem. Do your downloads somewhere else, or get some other sap to do it.

I think any settlement they've got so far they've bullied out of people (little girls). Tell them I did it and they can lick the sweat off my shaved balls.

> Apparently, my IP address has been logged as doing some serious movie
> downloading via KaZaA Lite. They as yet do not know my name. Has anyone else
> received notices from the RIAA or MPAA or ESA (formerly IDSA)?
>
> Suggestions for masking my IP address? According to an e-mail I received, most
> IP masking software is ineffective, especially since I'm on a college campus. I
> use KaZaA mostly because DC++ is difficult to work with (you guys are rarely on
> and you don't really have the movies I'm looking for and the other forums have
> shitty rules, erratic downloads, and few open slots if any).
>
> I'd use BitTorrent if I knew how. Anyway, the movies are Disney movies, but the
> only on they could pin on my was "Beauty and the Beast." I'm planning on putting
> everything on CD and wiping it off the face of my hard drive and laying low for
> a few months. Suggestions for avoiding future problems with the MPAA? Thanks
> guys.
>
>
> Fett seal of approval™
>

sdaf

the problem was your method of retrieving it, and then the fact that you apparently had it shared on the network afterwards/during the download. use something like peerguardian if you must use the kazaa network. still, trading high-visibility stuff like disney films or disney film soundtracks is a dangerous thing as far as the mpaa or riaa's wrath.

luckily, the mpaa isn't about to sue your struck ass like the riaa would. they complain to your isp at this point, your isp is the one you have to worry about- laying low for a bit is a good idea. if you need to trade files for the next few months, you should do it in a private place like a dc hub that isn't open to the public- or download shit from usenet. bittorrent is a bad idea for mainstream films [but a worse idea for major label music], and i wouldn't trust it even with known anti-piracy spy ips filtered to trade that stuff. if you must use bittorrent, use a private tracker that requires registration- this will also require that you share as much as you download, most likely, though that doesn't seem to be a problem if the mpaa nailed you for sharing.

they then notify the isp and the isp basically is in charge from then on. they don't give a fuck about the mpaa, they don't want to lose a customer either- but they also don't wanna get sued. the isp generally sends an email saying 'don't do it again' along with the mpaa's original warning. sometimes the isp rapes you with a termination of service, but that's pretty much the extent of it.. the mpaa is not doing what the riaa does to casual users... yet.

Quit fucking using P2P applications. Use the Usenet. Your college should have a usenet server, and if they don't then you can just pay a few bucks a month to subscribe to a decent one.

And they log everyone that's uploading it.

They don't even need to put anything out there (though I don't doubt that it's a tactic that they've used in the past), they just need to jump on, look for some movies and log everyone that's sharing it.

Now the school is not run by assholes, so they are not giving out my name to the MPAA. However, few pranksters would go through the trouble of sending an official notice through the school to get to me. Don't worry, I'm not in trouble. I'll just say I didn't know and I won't do it again. And that'll be that.

> If so, it may be someone shitting you, or just another virus.
>
>



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All these files are on my laptop, so I could hide it in a locker or something and they'd never be able to prove a damn thing. My PC would be searched, nothing would be found (not even a file sharing program), apology accepted, have a nice day. But the MPAA is not the RIAA, in that they are quite nice and they give you warnings, as in "please stop doing illegal stuff." Being a fan of the MPAA, and not wishing to hurt their feelings, I shall humor them.

But the odds of me being in trouble are slim. As long as they can't track anything else, nobody'll say a damn thing. I mean, seriously, ONE MOVIE? Get real.

It's weird that they're targeting my school, as we are very small, and our copyright violation specialist told me that several people were being targeted this week, AS IF WE WERE UNDER DIRECT INSPECTION. Frankly, I don't know if that's true or just conspiracy theory stuff ("Well, Frank, let's check out everything Random University is downloading today. Hey, look-- Beauty and the Beast. Let's nail this sucker."). If you play dumb long enough, I think they'll go away.

Thanks for being concerned, though.

> Use Norton Wipeinfo, then tell them to fuck off, and you don't know shit about
> it. Or just ignore them from here on. If you're on a Campus, you'll have no
> problem making it look like someone used your computer without your knowledge.
> Use the fact, that the "burden of proof" is their problem. Do your downloads
> somewhere else, or get some other sap to do it.
>
> I think any settlement they've got so far they've bullied out of people (little
> girls). Tell them I did it and they can lick the sweat off my shaved balls.
>
> > Apparently, my IP address has been logged as doing some serious movie
> > downloading via KaZaA Lite. They as yet do not know my name. Has anyone else
> > received notices from the RIAA or MPAA or ESA (formerly IDSA)?
> >
> > Suggestions for masking my IP address? According to an e-mail I received, most
> > IP masking software is ineffective, especially since I'm on a college campus.
> I
> > use KaZaA mostly because DC++ is difficult to work with (you guys are rarely
> on
> > and you don't really have the movies I'm looking for and the other forums have
> > shitty rules, erratic downloads, and few open slots if any).
> >
> > I'd use BitTorrent if I knew how. Anyway, the movies are Disney movies, but
> the
> > only on they could pin on my was "Beauty and the Beast." I'm planning on
> putting
> > everything on CD and wiping it off the face of my hard drive and laying low
> for
> > a few months. Suggestions for avoiding future problems with the MPAA? Thanks
> > guys.
> >
> >
> > Fett seal of approval™
> >
>
>
>



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And naturally I pay them a lot of money, so they wanna keep me around. But they're not jerks, no.


> they then notify the isp and the isp basically is in charge from then on. they
> don't give a fuck about the mpaa, they don't want to lose a customer either- but
> they also don't wanna get sued. the isp generally sends an email saying 'don't
> do it again' along with the mpaa's original warning. sometimes the isp rapes you
> with a termination of service, but that's pretty much the extent of it.. the
> mpaa is not doing what the riaa does to casual users... yet.
>
>



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Oh wait what are we talking about?

If your college is your ISP, then you got nothing to worry about. They'll dump all the log files on a regular basis with all that traffic. They probably do anyway out of paranoia. Every since the patriot act, schools and libraries don't like to keep a lot of information lying around.
If I were you, I'd pop some corn and relax with a movie.

> And naturally I pay them a lot of money, so they wanna keep me around. But
> they're not jerks, no.
>
>
> > they then notify the isp and the isp basically is in charge from then on. they
> > don't give a fuck about the mpaa, they don't want to lose a customer either-
> but
> > they also don't wanna get sued. the isp generally sends an email saying 'don't
> > do it again' along with the mpaa's original warning. sometimes the isp rapes
> you
> > with a termination of service, but that's pretty much the extent of it.. the
> > mpaa is not doing what the riaa does to casual users... yet.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Fett seal of approval™
>

> All these files are on my laptop, so I could hide it in a locker or something
> and they'd never be able to prove a damn thing. My PC would be searched, nothing
> would be found (not even a file sharing program), apology accepted, have a nice
> day. But the MPAA is not the RIAA, in that they are quite nice and they give you
> warnings, as in "please stop doing illegal stuff." Being a fan of the MPAA, and
> not wishing to hurt their feelings, I shall humor them.
>
> But the odds of me being in trouble are slim. As long as they can't track
> anything else, nobody'll say a damn thing. I mean, seriously, ONE MOVIE? Get
> real.
>
> It's weird that they're targeting my school, as we are very small, and our
> copyright violation specialist told me that several people were being targeted
> this week, AS IF WE WERE UNDER DIRECT INSPECTION. Frankly, I don't know if
> that's true or just conspiracy theory stuff ("Well, Frank, let's check out
> everything Random University is downloading today. Hey, look-- Beauty and the
> Beast. Let's nail this sucker."). If you play dumb long enough, I think they'll
> go away.
>
> Thanks for being concerned, though.
>
> > Use Norton Wipeinfo, then tell them to fuck off, and you don't know shit about
> > it. Or just ignore them from here on. If you're on a Campus, you'll have no
> > problem making it look like someone used your computer without your knowledge.
>
> > Use the fact, that the "burden of proof" is their problem. Do your downloads
> > somewhere else, or get some other sap to do it.
> >
> > I think any settlement they've got so far they've bullied out of people
> (little
> > girls). Tell them I did it and they can lick the sweat off my shaved balls.
> >
> > > Apparently, my IP address has been logged as doing some serious movie
> > > downloading via KaZaA Lite. They as yet do not know my name. Has anyone else
> > > received notices from the RIAA or MPAA or ESA (formerly IDSA)?
> > >
> > > Suggestions for masking my IP address? According to an e-mail I received,
> most
> > > IP masking software is ineffective, especially since I'm on a college
> campus.
> > I
> > > use KaZaA mostly because DC++ is difficult to work with (you guys are rarely
> > on
> > > and you don't really have the movies I'm looking for and the other forums
> have
> > > shitty rules, erratic downloads, and few open slots if any).
> > >
> > > I'd use BitTorrent if I knew how. Anyway, the movies are Disney movies, but
> > the
> > > only on they could pin on my was "Beauty and the Beast." I'm planning on
> > putting
> > > everything on CD and wiping it off the face of my hard drive and laying low
> > for
> > > a few months. Suggestions for avoiding future problems with the MPAA? Thanks
> > > guys.
> > >
> > >
> > > Fett seal of approval™
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Fett seal of approval™
>

chill, as CK said. anybody fucks with your shit tell 'em you got a hard pipe hittin' nigga named joffe in ya corner.

having come from getting charged in internet crime etc, deleting or formatting the shit off your harddrive won't do shit at all, you'll just have to get a new harddrive, having been in the situation its quite easy to retrieve info off a deleted/formated/smashed harddrive the only way is to get rid of the HD completely and get a new one trust me on this.

> Apparently, my IP address has been logged as doing some serious movie
> downloading via KaZaA Lite. They as yet do not know my name. Has anyone else
> received notices from the RIAA or MPAA or ESA (formerly IDSA)?
>
> Suggestions for masking my IP address? According to an e-mail I received, most
> IP masking software is ineffective, especially since I'm on a college campus. I
> use KaZaA mostly because DC++ is difficult to work with (you guys are rarely on
> and you don't really have the movies I'm looking for and the other forums have
> shitty rules, erratic downloads, and few open slots if any).
>
> I'd use BitTorrent if I knew how. Anyway, the movies are Disney movies, but the
> only on they could pin on my was "Beauty and the Beast." I'm planning on putting
> everything on CD and wiping it off the face of my hard drive and laying low for
> a few months. Suggestions for avoiding future problems with the MPAA? Thanks
> guys.
>
>
> Fett seal of approval™
>




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> sounds like you're in deep shit for downloading a gay movie, good luck man
>
> All I can say is bittorrent doesn't hide your ip at all, it's widely shown to
> anyone
>
> and deleting files on a hd doesn't really delete them you know, there used to be
> a program called shredder, now I don't know about this stuff, but don't think
> you're safe because you deleted it
>
> I don't know about masking ip, but you can always block their ip, again, there
> used to be peer guardian but it seems it's not updated anymore, there should be
> an alternative of some sort
>
>
> Moon the world
>




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