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It wouldn't be such an insult if straight people never shone, as the person put it in the article, but you can argue that gay people have more reason to feel discriminated against or feel oppression than straight people. There can be a straight pride week but they're saying the reason they feel proud is because they are conservative, and conservative views are against gay rights. So they're parading against gay rights under the guise of straight pride. Gays never advocated anything about anyone not having rights.

You can be proud of who you are. Once you start seprarating people in groups, someone is always offended. So what if you don't believe in the lifestyle of another. That's allowed. You don't like it, that's allowed too. The fact that neither runs each other out of town on a rail is what's called tolerance. It isn't being gay, and declaring sole rights to liking your lifestyle, because you fell you are the victim.
I love eating pussy. I'll raise a fucking glass to eating pussy. Try to break my record for how many times I can make her cum before my tongue wears out. And I won't touch a cock if my life depended on it. I'm fucking glad everytime a bitch presents, and I take pride in my work, but would be revolted to do the same thing to a dick. Doesn't make me a bad person. Doesn't make a fag any better than me because he got pistol whipped for his pride. Doesn't make a dyke better than me because she thinks she can do better. I'll still deserve my pride. I'll help the fag track down the fag basher, unless he's an asshole. The fag has every right to fight for change. Well... I don't really give a shit about the dyke, but you get the fucking point.


> It wouldn't be such an insult if straight people never shone, as the person put
> it in the article, but you can argue that gay people have more reason to feel
> discriminated against or feel oppression than straight people. There can be a
> straight pride week but they're saying the reason they feel proud is because
> they are conservative, and conservative views are against gay rights. So
> they're parading against gay rights under the guise of straight pride. Gays
> never advocated anything about anyone not having rights.
>

Good for them. Why is it when what is considered the 'norm' tries to celebrate how they are it suddenly is either hate speak, racist, shocking? FUCK double standard mentality.

I was under the impression that conservatives were against gay rights, conservative does not only celebrate positive aspects but it enforces some negative ones. Is that not true?

> So what if you don't believe in the lifestyle of
> another. That's allowed. You don't like it, that's allowed too.

Sure, and you can promote that view, but some are bound to have a problem with it, and here we are in this situation. I'm not saying it's right/wrong, but I'm trying to at least make a better statement on how the situation arose than the article does.

The problem is not just promoting conservatism though, but wrangling every straight person in supporting their cause. It's called "straight pride" when really it's "conservatist pride", they're making a generalization about all straight people and trying to promote that view. I guess they're too afraid to label themselves as anti-gay or whatever? It's funny that they're not just coming out and be honest about it, but they're trying to wrangle the support of every straight person out there too. You have to agree not every straight person would not want to be a part of this "straight pride" since it comes packaged with anti-gay sentiment as well.

My problem is that it says something about a group that does not wish to make that statement, they should only make statements about themselves. You're right that splitting everything into groups is bad but it's a concept they're taking advantage of instead of just saying what this parade is really about and making what they really feel the main message. Instead they're trying to force you to accept their view in the way that you address their cause, by making this a "straight" issue, instead of whatever issue they really feel. "Straight" covers a lot of ground and is too general to describe the group and its intentions.

> I was under the impression that conservatives were against gay rights,
> conservative does not only celebrate positive aspects but it enforces some
> negative ones. Is that not true?

Yeah it's not true. What's a gay right? Some Conservatives are against gay marriage, some aren't. Some have certain standards, others feel it's up to you to manage it and not make it their problem. And why is it only Conservatives are the ones that push the wrong agenda? And Wrong for who?

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> > So what if you don't believe in the lifestyle of
> > another. That's allowed. You don't like it, that's allowed too.
>
> Sure, and you can promote that view, but some are bound to have a problem with
> it, and here we are in this situation. I'm not saying it's right/wrong, but I'm
> trying to at least make a better statement on how the situation arose than the
> article does.

I never offered a perfect system. Sure there are going to be problems. I think the wrong message in that article is you call yourself tolerant, but if someone celebrates something different than you, you claim exclusive rights as the victim. Victim Scmictem. All these kids are doing is saying they are proud of who they are to and having a party. We just became so fucking PC, you can't do that unless you break the bonds of oppression. Bullshit.


>
> The problem is not just promoting conservatism though, but wrangling every
> straight person in supporting their cause. It's called "straight pride" when
> really it's "conservatist pride", they're making a generalization about all
> straight people and trying to promote that view. I guess they're too afraid to
> label themselves as anti-gay or whatever? It's funny that they're not just
> coming out and be honest about it, but they're trying to wrangle the support of
> every straight person out there too.
>

What the fuck? So being conservative is anti-gay? NO! You put that label there, not anything in the article. That's exactly what I'm talking about. That's predjudice on YOUR part, because YOU seemed to already have an idea about the evil conservatives, and you read it into this story. I just re-read it, and I missed the part where they planned to crush the evil gay agenda in the rally, or the mind control boooths to turn you straight.
But it's ok ya big fag *kisses*, I'm conservative and I still love you, and guns and stuff (I'm manly). I'm fucking with ya. See tolerance is a fucking gas. Feel free to shit on my boys anytime, I got thick skin.

> victim. Victim Scmictem. All these kids are doing is

Victim scHmictim...

You fag.

CSP

> Yeah it's not true.

Oh, well then I have this all wrong

> What the fuck? So being conservative is anti-gay? NO!

That's my impression, I heard that those against gay marriage (and therefore the right to be recognized as a married couple for any legal purposes) were conservative. I try to keep up with american politics but it's not the easiest to follow. I thought in the US media the aim of using the label "conservative" was supposed to connotate certain stigma, otherwise why use labels at all?

> > Yeah it's not true.
>
> Oh, well then I have this all wrong

it's mainly the RELIGOUS RIGHT WING conservatives who are anti-gay.
there are people who are called moderate conservatives (see: rudy giuliani).

>
> > What the fuck? So being conservative is anti-gay? NO!
>
> That's my impression, I heard that those against gay marriage (and therefore the
> right to be recognized as a married couple for any legal purposes) were
> conservative. I try to keep up with american politics but it's not the easiest
> to follow. I thought in the US media the aim of using the label "conservative"
> was supposed to connotate certain stigma, otherwise why use labels at all?

and there is your problem, if you remember my major rant earlier about how fucked up the mainstream media (almost all are left wing based) is in the u.s.


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> and there is your problem, if you remember my major rant earlier about how
> fucked up the mainstream media (almost all are left wing based) is in the u.s.

Yeah but even the media must make sense in the context of the media? I wasn't trying to apply the article to what normal people should think, I was just trying to say what the people are probably thinking based on being brainwashed by the media, but since I'm wrong about the way conservatists are seen then I don't know why people are annoyed about the march.

> > and there is your problem, if you remember my major rant earlier about how
> > fucked up the mainstream media (almost all are left wing based) is in the u.s.
>
> Yeah but even the media must make sense in the context of the media? I wasn't

you couldn't be more wrong, the media here for the most part has turned into complete and utter shit.

> trying to apply the article to what normal people should think, I was just
> trying to say what the people are probably thinking based on being brainwashed
> by the media, but since I'm wrong about the way conservatists are seen then I
> don't know why people are annoyed about the march.

i can sum it up into one word:
HYPE!

but the long end of it all is that most of the l.w. orgs in this country have made it mission critical #1 to go after anyone & anything that does not bow down to their fascist agenda.
not that i am saying that any and all gay/lesiban p33pz/orgs/groups/butt orgies are fascist pigs, it's the l.w. & r.w. orgs + media + politicans that are turning this country into shit.


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