> hell, GT itself isn't that hot of a game.

I can see why people think that but I also see why some think it's pretty sweet. I think the Rally mode has the best phyisics of any I've tried though... along with normal driving. However the fact that you can't go off course is probably what makes it suck.

> I'm a little disappointed in how
> Richard Burns Rally turned out (for all the hype, the physics just had too many
> quirks...similar to Gran Turismo).

Never tried

> I really wish Yu Suzuki would field a team to
> develop a rally game on par with F355...

But would he want to? I agree this would be really cool though!

> but i guess it'd dip a little too far
> into the realm of "realisim" which doesn't overlap with the realm of "fun" very
> well most of the time

Yeah... at least the way F355 came out. You only like it if you're an enthusiast. It's like he can't go half way. It's either Outrun or F355. At least both make some people happy...