I´m a happy owner of a ipod 20GB 4 gen. it´s awesone, it recharges itself while usb plugged on my pc (dunno if the creative does recharge while usb plugged but its the first device that I know which has this feature), It´s my portable HD, and iTunes is the best mp3 player software IMO.

It has some games, calendar, alarm, clock, notes (txt) viewer and contacts (outlook vcard) viewer.

I can listen to mp3 for 10 hour straight, and I recharged it today after 2 weeks. Since I´m mostly on work instead of home, I chose to buy that instead of a computer.

And I only use it with my PC, not a mac.

:p