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SubjectWii price in US - $249. Wii price in UK - $335. FUCKNUTS -nt- Reply to this message
Posted byMarv
Posted on09/15/06 09:16 AM









SubjectWhere did you get that info? new Reply to this message
Posted byDeath Knight
Posted on09/15/06 10:25 AM



http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/wiieuropeanlaunchdetails.shtml



250 Euros or 180 pounds.

Blame your own economy if the Euro is worth more than the dollar. :-P

All work and no play makes me..., well, you know the rest.


SubjectFrom tha interweb new Reply to this message
Posted byMarv
Posted on09/15/06 10:54 AM



> http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/wiieuropeanlaunchdetails.shtml
> 250 Euros or 180 pounds.

Partly because the pound kicks the dollar's ass at the moment ;o)




SubjectSUCKERZZZZZZZZZZZZZ -nt- new Reply to this message
Posted bySatsuNoHiTo
Posted on09/15/06 04:57 PM



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Subject1gbp = 1.88usd new Reply to this message
Posted bylux_92886
Posted on09/16/06 01:05 AM



> > http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/wiieuropeanlaunchdetails.shtml
> > 250 Euros or 180 pounds.
>
> Partly because the pound kicks the dollar's ass at the moment ;o)
>





Subject$399 in AUS -nt- new Reply to this message
Posted byjajig
Posted on09/16/06 01:26 AM



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Subjectdon't forget VAT - makes a lot of difference (mt) new Reply to this message
Posted bynewsdee
Posted on09/16/06 02:18 AM



In the US prices usually DO NOT include VAT (it's charged when you paid and shown on the bill), but European does (displayed on the retail shelves or online, usually next to a small number for the VAT-free amount).

= US =
New York VAT = 9% (last I've been there)
Michigan VAT = 6%
Buy Online From Another State VAT = 0%

= Europe =
UK = 17.5%
France = 19.7%
Buy Online From Luxembourg = 14%

So if i'ts 250 Euros retail in France, that means it's actually 200 Euros without VAT.. which is comparable to US (~$253).
The UK though is a rip-off. Without VAT, it's still 148 pounds, which is U$S 280 !
But $30 is still cheaper than shipping from France... :-(



Yes in Europe we like so much to give free money to the government in everything we buy, that then companies wonder why people don't buy as many things as in the US...




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Subject19% tax is an arse raping new Reply to this message
Posted byjajig
Posted on09/16/06 03:25 AM



What is your income tax over there?




SubjectAh well, expected new Reply to this message
Posted byLordEvilElmo
Posted on09/16/06 07:42 AM



If it was more than 200 I was going to say fuck it and wait, but looks like I'll pick one up with 3 extra controllers, Zelda and MP3.

Heres hoping the Xmas rush doesn't ruin things!


SubjectOne more fuckage... new Reply to this message
Posted byMarv
Posted on09/16/06 08:29 AM



> If it was more than 200 I was going to say fuck it and wait, but looks like
> I'll pick one up with 3 extra controllers, Zelda and MP3.
>
> Heres hoping the Xmas rush doesn't ruin things!

... Metroid Prime 3 is delayed until next year! It's still in the "Launch Window", but not a Launch Title.

Still, I'll probably do the same (3 extra controllers plus Zelda). It's gonna cost about 340 all-in, but I've been saving up... I'm also considering Wario Ware Smooth Moves, possibly Rayman (both look like good party games), and I'm going to watch the reviews of Red Steel carefully.
I'm just hoping that I can use my Gamecube controllers in place of Wii Classic controllers for the Virtual Console games (I know you can use them for Gamecube games). Having said that, I still have a SNES and an N64 hooked up under my TV, so I might not end up using the Virtual Console anyway...




SubjectRe: EU tax laws are a mess new Reply to this message
Posted bynewsdee
Posted on09/16/06 08:44 AM



> What is your income tax over there?

It depends, the different tax laws are a mess.
(The numbers below are not 100% accurate, but from the top of my head)

In the UK, it's tiered. You pay nothing for some first amount, 20% for another amount, and if you make enough per year, 40% on anything remaining. If you're married every person has to pay their own part depending on their income. Like in the US, taxes are usually retained from your paycheck and you file a tax return to get money back.

In France, you pay about 20-25% from your paycheck for all kinds of things. THEN at the end of the year you have to pay AGAIN from the money you've taken home. This is from 0% to 30% depending on how much you earn. If you're married (or any alternative arrangement, including one that does not look at gender of the partners) then the tax is on the total amount. Which sucks because the %es are by threshold, so if you make 1 Euro more than a given amount, you might get taxed 15% more on everything (!).

Then people wonder why France has all kinds of social issues. You can tell some parts are well-meaning (gay couples get tax benefits, etc), but other parts look like demagogic ideas (there's a mandatory "solidarity tax" which is basically a mandatory charity). Far too many ppl are better off living from the government than working, or doing shittier jobs for slighlty less, because otherwise they would make much less money.

The UK tax system is better, unless some cases with marriage (which in France could translate in much less taxes). The job market in France is completely frozen, and on average salaries are much lower.

OTOH, France has excellent benefits in *ANY* job, even part-time. You also get automatic unemployment insurance. And the food is better.

And this has gone completely off-topic...




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SubjectDon't forget "National Insurance" new Reply to this message
Posted byMarv
Posted on09/16/06 08:53 AM



> > What is your income tax over there?
>
> It depends, the different tax laws are a mess.
> (The numbers below are not 100% accurate, but from the top of my head)
>
> In the UK, it's tiered. You pay nothing for some first amount, 20% for another
> amount, and if you make enough per year, 40% on anything remaining. If you're
> married every person has to pay their own part depending on their income. Like
> in the US, taxes are usually retained from your paycheck and you file a tax
> return to get money back.

We also pay about 8% National Insurance at the same time they take out the 20% income tax. Nominally, it's supposed to cover things like health and unemployment benefit, but it's all tax. On top of those taxes, there's a Council Tax, which is at a local-authority-set-level, based upon the value of your home.
(Plus import duties, taxes on petrol, having a car, additional taxes on alcohol and cigarettes...)




SubjectRe: One more fuckage... new Reply to this message
Posted byLordEvilElmo
Posted on09/16/06 09:08 AM




> ... Metroid Prime 3 is delayed until next year! It's still in the "Launch
> Window", but not a Launch Title.

Fuckers. I hate that - why list it as a launch title if it's not going to be a launch title. The 2 games I want most are Zelda and MP3.

> Still, I'll probably do the same (3 extra controllers plus Zelda). It's gonna
> cost about 340 all-in, but I've been saving up... I'm also considering Wario
> Ware Smooth Moves, possibly Rayman (both look like good party games), and I'm
> going to watch the reviews of Red Steel carefully.
> I'm just hoping that I can use my Gamecube controllers in place of Wii Classic
> controllers for the Virtual Console games (I know you can use them for Gamecube
> games). Having said that, I still have a SNES and an N64 hooked up under my TV,
> so I might not end up using the Virtual Console anyway...

Same here - GC controllers are fine for almost everything (Not 2D fighters though) as it would be a pain to have to fork out for 7 extra controllers in total.

Regarding the virtual console; Do you know if they are modifying the games in any way shape or form? I love Mario KArt 64s tracks, but I get a headache with the awful refresh rate.


SubjectRe: One more fuckage... new Reply to this message
Posted byMarv
Posted on09/16/06 05:09 PM



> Regarding the virtual console; Do you know if they are modifying the games in
> any way shape or form? I love Mario KArt 64s tracks, but I get a headache with
> the awful refresh rate.
>

I haven't heard anything about that to be honest. Just fired up MK64 in Surreal on my Xbox, and the refresh rate seemed fine, so perhaps it'll be OK just because modern consoles have better video output?
One thing I do remember reading a while ago is that the classic games weren't going to be tweaked for the motion-sensitive controller, so that's a clue. Looking back on Nintendo's past re-releases, there's a mixed approach. For Super Mario All Stars, they made a lot of changes (graphics, playability tweaks), whereas for the Gamecube releases of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, there were small changes (saving in Majora's Mask), but they left emulation glitches in (there's even a warning that the sound will be messed up in the instructions). For the Classics range on the GBA, it seemed like they were pretty-much unchanged ... and I think that's what we're going to see with the Virtual Console games, as they are at a relatively-low price-point (unlike Mario All Stars, which was a full-priced SNES game).
It would be pretty cool to play MK64 online though...




SubjectRe: One more fuckage... new Reply to this message
Posted byLordEvilElmo
Posted on09/17/06 08:37 AM



> > Regarding the virtual console; Do you know if they are modifying the games in
> > any way shape or form? I love Mario KArt 64s tracks, but I get a headache with
> > the awful refresh rate.
> >
>
> I haven't heard anything about that to be honest. Just fired up MK64 in Surreal
> on my Xbox, and the refresh rate seemed fine, so perhaps it'll be OK just
> because modern consoles have better video output?
> One thing I do remember reading a while ago is that the classic games weren't
> going to be tweaked for the motion-sensitive controller, so that's a clue.
> Looking back on Nintendo's past re-releases, there's a mixed approach. For Super
> Mario All Stars, they made a lot of changes (graphics, playability tweaks),
> whereas for the Gamecube releases of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, there
> were small changes (saving in Majora's Mask), but they left emulation glitches
> in (there's even a warning that the sound will be messed up in the
> instructions). For the Classics range on the GBA, it seemed like they were
> pretty-much unchanged ... and I think that's what we're going to see with the
> Virtual Console games, as they are at a relatively-low price-point (unlike Mario
> All Stars, which was a full-priced SNES game).
> It would be pretty cool to play MK64 online though...
>

Hmmmm... Sounds like there is a slim chance of having much upscaling. If it is like the X-Box emulators (i.e. the reason the refresh was so poor was processing power being too slow), then maybe it will be ok.

If you fancy playing 4 MK64 tracks (Oddly, 2 of the bad ones were included), the DS version hs them included and I will happily play ya ;)


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