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SubjectSo, im thinking about getting a DS Reply to this message
Posted byTi-BOne
Posted on09/24/07 08:43 AM



Is there ANYthing i should know ?

Im thinking about buying a DS Lite + a 1gb NCARD 8G
is that good.
can i run emulators on it ?
can i run gba games on it ? (flash card)

its a little expensive.. but heck.. ya know...
as long as im not robbed, its cool..
anyway, im still on the thinking and researching stage..



one can never destroy the power of evil



SubjectRe: So, im thinking about getting a DS new Reply to this message
Posted byMegaHurtz
Posted on09/24/07 12:57 PM



Never heard of the N-Card, so I wouldn't be able to say anything about its quality other than I would be inclined to think it would be a cheap knockoff.

What I can tell you is that you won't be able to easily play gba roms on there. None of the slot1 cards can let you load gba games. Its a limitation of the DS hardware or some such, I think along the lines of how the gba couldn't use GB Color carts or something.

You *can* still play gba roms, but you'll need to use a gba emulator that runs in DS mode. I haven't looked at any in a year or more, but last I saw they were still slow and buggy.

A user review I found says the N-Card supports DLDI autopatching, so assuming that is true, you shouldn't have any issues with DS-native homebrew and would have full read and write support.




SubjectRe: So, im thinking about getting a DS new Reply to this message
Posted byShawn
Posted on09/24/07 02:56 PM



Why use GBA emu's when you can just get at slot-2 flash card like M3 Perfect Lite? I bought this flash card and I've never had any problems.....only game I've had problems with is Castlevania POR. You can see compatability and settings at teh following website,

http://m3wiki.com/index.php?title=M3_NDS_roms


> Never heard of the N-Card, so I wouldn't be able to say anything about its
> quality other than I would be inclined to think it would be a cheap knockoff.
>
> What I can tell you is that you won't be able to easily play gba roms on there.
> None of the slot1 cards can let you load gba games. Its a limitation of the DS
> hardware or some such, I think along the lines of how the gba couldn't use GB
> Color carts or something.
>
> You *can* still play gba roms, but you'll need to use a gba emulator that runs
> in DS mode. I haven't looked at any in a year or more, but last I saw they were
> still slow and buggy.
>
> A user review I found says the N-Card supports DLDI autopatching, so assuming
> that is true, you shouldn't have any issues with DS-native homebrew and would
> have full read and write support.
>



SubjectGrab an R4 and an EZFlash 3-in-1 new Reply to this message
Posted byMarv
Posted on09/24/07 03:34 PM



> Never heard of the N-Card, so I wouldn't be able to say anything about its
> quality other than I would be inclined to think it would be a cheap knockoff.
>
> What I can tell you is that you won't be able to easily play gba roms on there.
> None of the slot1 cards can let you load gba games. Its a limitation of the DS
> hardware or some such, I think along the lines of how the gba couldn't use GB
> Color carts or something.
>
> You *can* still play gba roms, but you'll need to use a gba emulator that runs
> in DS mode. I haven't looked at any in a year or more, but last I saw they were
> still slow and buggy.
>
> A user review I found says the N-Card supports DLDI autopatching, so assuming
> that is true, you shouldn't have any issues with DS-native homebrew and would
> have full read and write support.

Widely acclaimed Slot 1 card, and you can play GBA stuff using the EZ-Flash expansion (which also acts as a RAM pack for the DS browser and a vibration thingy). That's what I've got and I'm very happy!




Subjector EZFlashV + expansion new Reply to this message
Posted byRoushiMSX
Posted on09/24/07 03:52 PM



I use an EZFlash V and love it. The stock firmware is a bit meh, but update it to the latest version and you'll be hard pressed to find any games that don't work. Even Portrait of Run works peachy.

One big drawback to the EZV is that you have to manually choose the save file settings, though. Thankfully, there's an updated list being maintained that you can just copy onto your cart and not have to worry about it.

Hell, this wiki does a pretty good job of covering it all. That said, I'm looking forward to getting an R4 whenever I get another DS. I'd like to be able to more directly compare the two, plus both are made of equal parts awesome and win.

I do kinda wish I had a slot-2 solution setup so that I could dump the save files from my original carts. One of the huge advantages of playing off the flashcart is being able to back up the saves to my pc (or swap 'em with other people). :(




Subjecthmm.. the R4 is a little more expensive than the ncard.. new Reply to this message
Posted byTi-BOne
Posted on09/25/07 07:33 AM



and i cant find this EZFlash V.

I will research a little more.
i would like to play some gba games on it, if possible.

how good is genesis and snes emulation on it ?
need some rnr-racing fix on the road.


> I use an EZFlash V and love it. The stock firmware is a bit meh, but update it
> to the latest version and you'll be hard pressed to find any games that don't
> work. Even Portrait of Run works peachy.
>
> One big drawback to the EZV is that you have to manually choose the save file
> settings, though. Thankfully, there's an updated list being maintained that you
> can just copy onto your cart and not have to worry about it.
>
> Hell, this wiki does a pretty good job of covering it all. That said, I'm
> looking forward to getting an R4 whenever I get another DS. I'd like to be able
> to more directly compare the two, plus both are made of equal parts awesome and
> win.
>
> I do kinda wish I had a slot-2 solution setup so that I could dump the save
> files from my original carts. One of the huge advantages of playing off the
> flashcart is being able to back up the saves to my pc (or swap 'em with other
> people). :(
>



one can never destroy the power of evil



SubjectRe: hmm.. the R4 is a little more expensive than the ncard.. new Reply to this message
Posted byjajig
Posted on09/25/07 09:00 AM



I have the 3 in 1, EZFlash V, DS lite card and 1GB Kingston Flash. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1893

These guys shipped pretty fast too.


http://www.dealextreme.com/




Subjectwhere do you live? new Reply to this message
Posted bySilentAce
Posted on09/25/07 11:09 AM



i have ordered from them like at least 5 times and they have NEVER shipped fast. Takes at least 2-3 weeks for everything i have ordered. I don't blame them since they usually ship it registered and its from hong kong but they are no amazon

> I have the 3 in 1, EZFlash V, DS lite card and 1GB Kingston Flash.
> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1893
>
> These guys shipped pretty fast too.
>
>
> http://www.dealextreme.com/
>


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Subjectim leaning towards the ncard new Reply to this message
Posted byTi-BOne
Posted on09/25/07 02:06 PM



unless theres something that i should do to avoid it ?
it doubles as passme card, so i can get a gba slot flash card later, and works with no problem..
apparently is fast enough for almost all games (PoR included), and the only thing is that doesnt support Download Play (which is REALLY not a problem).

Any tips on games to get ?

and.. is the DS really worth the investment.
i mean, i am committing a huge chunk of money here, and by that, i really mean it.
i am going to put 350us bucks on the whole deal, which is QUITE a lot.
if theres anything that makes you unhappy about it, please, voice it ?

thanks.

> Is there ANYthing i should know ?
>
> Im thinking about buying a DS Lite + a 1gb NCARD 8G
> is that good.
> can i run emulators on it ?
> can i run gba games on it ? (flash card)
>
> its a little expensive.. but heck.. ya know...
> as long as im not robbed, its cool..
> anyway, im still on the thinking and researching stage..
>
>
>
> one can never destroy the power of evil
>



one can never destroy the power of evil



SubjectRe: im leaning towards the ncard new Reply to this message
Posted byMegaHurtz
Posted on09/25/07 04:54 PM



I'm pretty happy with my DS. Less so than 6 months ago, but I think there are enough good games to justify a purchase of one.

My biggest gripe with the system is that there has been only one game in the last 6 months that I was interested in (Sim City), and even that didn't live up to expectations. It has been a bad dry spell, and amazingly I don't see any end in sight. I use my DS more to play gba games than anything else right now while my psp handles the majority of my portable gaming needs.

I was shocked Nintendo didn't really have any new killer title for the DS at either E3 or TGS.




SubjectIt's fucking uncomfortable to hold new Reply to this message
Posted byRoushiMSX
Posted on09/25/07 06:13 PM



The dpad is typical nintendo shit and the system is just an ergonomic nightmare. Be prepared for sore thumbs and a sleepy right arm unless you intend to play on the bed, laying on your stomach and supporting the DS and your hands with a pillow.

A lot of games make poor use of the stylus as well (either by forcing the player to use it in a game where it shouldn't be used or by awkwardly using it).

Still, there's a lot of great games on the platform and it's where most of the quirky, niche stuff is going to gravitate towards (since they're more likely to find an audience on a platform that's sold ~40+ million units so far). I don't really recommend playing GBA stuff on it; stick to emulators for that. Why play on a <3" screen when you can play on a >17" screen?

SNES and Genesis emulators on the DS still suck. There's some snazzy, interesting homebrew, but 16 bit emulation isn't among it.




Subjectthat's why I got a GP2X new Reply to this message
Posted bynewsdee
Posted on09/25/07 06:49 PM



Have a DS (1st edition) and a GBA SP before that. I got one of the old flash carts for the GBA that also works on the DS... however I've mostly ran NES emus on it. I've got quite a few games for both systems, but again, at the end of the day I've ended up mostly drawn to emus.

So a few weeks ago, I caved and went for a handheld that is designed for emus. There's no firmware to hack, no flash cart to buy (just a big SD card), and the LCD quality is very good (no ghosting). I get about 6h of battery life (with a spare in the bag for extra mileage), and many of the emus are extremely solid. The Genesis emu (Picodrive) is absolutely awesome and almost flawless - plays at more than 60 FPS with 44 Khz sound, and even supports Sega CD.

NeoGeo and CPS2 I get 60 FPS if I reduce the sound quality. SNES, PCE, and GBA are all playable, although with frameskip. Mame runs as well, although I find it a bit slow. Not too much of a problem to play in the train, though. Last but not least, the PC98 emu (for Japanese ero games) works great, as does the GB Color emu (though doesn't support save ram at the moment, annoying). Ah and there's a PSX emu but haven't tried it. No way it goes full speed, though.

Of course the big drawback is that there are almost no commercial games on it. The offering isn't very appealing either, one of the most famous games (Payback) is just a clone of GTA1 (good one apparently, but I've never liked the first 2 GTAs). There's one new game (Wind and Water) that looks interesting, and is quite cheap. Might get it sooner or later.

Other than that, there's a bunch of ports from SDL and some open source games.. like Quake1, Supertux, Transport Tycoon, plus some more obscure titles that are good as well. The homebrew scene is quite healthy at the moment - playing BattleJewels at the moment (some Bejeweled clone with RPG elements). There's an SDK and a bunch of tools to program in C/C++ with SDL, so anybody can start makign their own games.

The thing is a bit more expensive than a DS Lite, but I do recommend checking one out if emu and homebrew is your primary objective for a handheld. There's a new version coming out in October that has a touch screen and a new D-Pad (the rest being the same), so the older model (F100 MK2) should go down in price soon. If you go for the older one, ensure you get a MK2 to increase the chance it will overclock well, though. (I can get mine up to 255 mhz without issues).

So my advice for Tib is... think well how much you want to have the DS games. A 4GByte SD card will be much much cheaper than any flash cart, which mostly go up to 1Gbit (so 128 Mbytes), AFAIK.
Not sure for how much you can get a GP2X in Brasil, though. May not be a cheaper option after all.





[download a life]


Subjectgive me your gba.. =P new Reply to this message
Posted byTi-BOne
Posted on09/25/07 08:49 PM



actually im not looking for anything specific.
i just have a lot of free time on the road, that i could use to play games, so, thats why i thought of a DS.
the PSP is rippingly expensive around here, and i have never even saw a Gp2x online to sell, much more one in person.

i initially thought of getting a gba, but the price difference between the two is ridiculous, thus buying a ds makes a lot more sense.

i just want some fun games to play while on my lunch breaks, and stuff.
and since i tend to like 2d stuff more, it seems like a good choice.
also, despite of which flash card i buy, i can play original gba games.. which is always a plus.
and with the emulators (at least 8 bit), i have even more stuff to play.. which is the main selling point, to me, so far.

or im gonna regret it ?


> Have a DS (1st edition) and a GBA SP before that. I got one of the old flash
> carts for the GBA that also works on the DS... however I've mostly ran NES emus
> on it. I've got quite a few games for both systems, but again, at the end of the
> day I've ended up mostly drawn to emus.
>
> So a few weeks ago, I caved and went for a handheld that is designed for emus.
> There's no firmware to hack, no flash cart to buy (just a big SD card), and the
> LCD quality is very good (no ghosting). I get about 6h of battery life (with a
> spare in the bag for extra mileage), and many of the emus are extremely solid.
> The Genesis emu (Picodrive) is absolutely awesome and almost flawless - plays at
> more than 60 FPS with 44 Khz sound, and even supports Sega CD.
>
> NeoGeo and CPS2 I get 60 FPS if I reduce the sound quality. SNES, PCE, and GBA
> are all playable, although with frameskip. Mame runs as well, although I find it
> a bit slow. Not too much of a problem to play in the train, though. Last but not
> least, the PC98 emu (for Japanese ero games) works great, as does the GB Color
> emu (though doesn't support save ram at the moment, annoying). Ah and there's a
> PSX emu but haven't tried it. No way it goes full speed, though.
>
> Of course the big drawback is that there are almost no commercial games on it.
> The offering isn't very appealing either, one of the most famous games (Payback)
> is just a clone of GTA1 (good one apparently, but I've never liked the first 2
> GTAs). There's one new game (Wind and Water) that looks interesting, and is
> quite cheap. Might get it sooner or later.
>
> Other than that, there's a bunch of ports from SDL and some open source games..
> like Quake1, Supertux, Transport Tycoon, plus some more obscure titles that are
> good as well. The homebrew scene is quite healthy at the moment - playing
> BattleJewels at the moment (some Bejeweled clone with RPG elements). There's an
> SDK and a bunch of tools to program in C/C++ with SDL, so anybody can start
> makign their own games.
>
> The thing is a bit more expensive than a DS Lite, but I do recommend checking
> one out if emu and homebrew is your primary objective for a handheld. There's a
> new version coming out in October that has a touch screen and a new D-Pad (the
> rest being the same), so the older model (F100 MK2) should go down in price
> soon. If you go for the older one, ensure you get a MK2 to increase the chance
> it will overclock well, though. (I can get mine up to 255 mhz without issues).
>
> So my advice for Tib is... think well how much you want to have the DS games. A
> 4GByte SD card will be much much cheaper than any flash cart, which mostly go up
> to 1Gbit (so 128 Mbytes), AFAIK.
> Not sure for how much you can get a GP2X in Brasil, though. May not be a cheaper
> option after all.
>
>
>
>
>
> [download a life]
>



SubjectAustralia new Reply to this message
Posted byjajig
Posted on09/26/07 00:14 AM



Takes about 10 days to get to me. I consider that to be fast. I've had to wait longer for Australian stores to mail things to me.




SubjectG6 Real, that's what I'd get, but I already have M3 Perfect -nt- new Reply to this message
Posted byskydoune
Posted on09/26/07 07:41 AM



> Is there ANYthing i should know ?
>
> Im thinking about buying a DS Lite + a 1gb NCARD 8G
> is that good.
> can i run emulators on it ?
> can i run gba games on it ? (flash card)
>
> its a little expensive.. but heck.. ya know...
> as long as im not robbed, its cool..
> anyway, im still on the thinking and researching stage..
>
>
>
> one can never destroy the power of evil
>





SubjectI have a R4/M3 which Ive got on september new Reply to this message
Posted byWild Guardian
Posted on10/01/07 04:31 PM



with a 2 GB Mini SD card
Just let me know if you need any pointers on where to find it or buy it ;)

And as for now... Zelda isnt dumped. yet.


SubjectRe: I have a R4/M3 which Ive got on september new Reply to this message
Posted byRoushiMSX
Posted on10/01/07 09:05 PM




> And as for now... Zelda isnt dumped. yet.
>

Yes it is




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