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SubjectVista = bandwidth bastards new Reply to this message
Posted byitchyNADZ
Posted on08/03/08 00:41 AM



Now can can get all the bandwidth you pay for every month as windows sets aside 20% by default.

Go to start/run/type in/ gpedit.msc /Local Computer Policy/Administrative Templates/network/
Qos Packet Scheduler/Limit reservable bandwidth/enable/ set it to 0/apply ok/done








SubjectI guess the systems takes it only when it needs it [nt] same in XP Reply to this message
Posted byTerry Bogard
Posted on08/03/08 04:02 AM



> Now can can get all the bandwidth you pay for every month as windows sets aside
> 20% by default.
>
> Go to start/run/type in/ gpedit.msc /Local Computer Policy/Administrative
> Templates/network/
> Qos Packet Scheduler/Limit reservable bandwidth/enable/ set it to 0/apply
> ok/done
>
>
>
>
>





SubjectFucking turn off QoS it is SHIT new Reply to this message
Posted byHalcyon
Posted on08/03/08 04:49 PM



QoS = Quality of Service.

QoS is something that sets packet priorities. Obviously the ones for adverts are higher and all your non-important stuff gets put to the back. QoS also reserves bandwidth just in case something with high priority might come along, so you get ads faster than downloads and ads are the first thing to show up on the page when it starts rendering.

Not that most routers pass QoS info through, some don't even forward that data, so all you do is introduce latency by spending time flagging packets before they go to ethernet. The whole shit is so fucking useless and broken and designed to work against the consumer, it pisses me off. Luckily MS was nice enough to enable that shit by default on all Windows installs.

On an internal network QoS may be put to some good uses, but unless you're a business, on the internet QoS is just used to shun your data. VoIP and shit like that work fine without it, and the people that warn you to use it and shit are on crack.




Subjectnice troll :) [nt] qos is used for automatic updates, not ads new Reply to this message
Posted byTerry Bogard
Posted on08/03/08 06:18 PM



> QoS = Quality of Service.
>
> QoS is something that sets packet priorities. Obviously the ones for adverts
> are higher and all your non-important stuff gets put to the back. QoS also
> reserves bandwidth just in case something with high priority might come along,
> so you get ads faster than downloads and ads are the first thing to show up on
> the page when it starts rendering.
>
> Not that most routers pass QoS info through, some don't even forward that data,
> so all you do is introduce latency by spending time flagging packets before they
> go to ethernet. The whole shit is so fucking useless and broken and designed to
> work against the consumer, it pisses me off. Luckily MS was nice enough to
> enable that shit by default on all Windows installs.
>
> On an internal network QoS may be put to some good uses, but unless you're a
> business, on the internet QoS is just used to shun your data. VoIP and shit
> like that work fine without it, and the people that warn you to use it and shit
> are on crack.
>
>





SubjectWhat? new Reply to this message
Posted byHalcyon
Posted on08/03/08 06:32 PM



AFAIK it's used to prioritize network resources.




Subjectyou are right new Reply to this message
Posted byTerry Bogard
Posted on08/04/08 06:42 PM



I was thinking about BITS, actually. Bandwidth reservation made me think of that. My mistake.

However:

> QoS is something that sets packet priorities.

True. It's a network service that guarantees (or doesn't, depending on network resources) to applications that require it, that service quality (bandwidth, latency) doesn't go under a certain threshold.

This is where you get trollish:

> Obviously the ones for adverts are higher and all your non-important stuff gets put to the back. QoS also reserves bandwidth just in case something with high priority might come along, so you get ads faster than downloads and ads are the first thing to show up on the page when it starts rendering.

This sounds wrong, especially when you say that most QOS doesn't go beyond the average private router. As you say, unless you have a router that handles QOS and the routers on your route share the same policy, QOS is basically useless, but I believe also harmless, because all packets fall back to best-effort level, and no ad packets get the special QOS flags.

But even not considering that, I highly doubt your average browser will mark HTTP requests for ads with a higher QOS level, this sounds so very wrong that I don't even feel the need to explain that.

Why are you so angry with QOS? Do VOIP calls (not skype, eh) on your operator's network reduce your torrent download bandwidth? :D (now this is where I get trollish).






SubjectRe: you are right new Reply to this message
Posted byHalcyon
Posted on08/04/08 11:28 PM



> This sounds wrong, especially when you say that most QOS doesn't go beyond the
> average private router. As you say, unless you have a router that handles QOS
> and the routers on your route share the same policy, QOS is basically useless,
> but I believe also harmless, because all packets fall back to best-effort level,
> and no ad packets get the special QOS flags.

Well, I'm not sure if that's true or not, maybe not to advertisements but there is a debate surrounding QoS in regards to the service you get: read about net neutrality

> But even not considering that, I highly doubt your average browser will mark
> HTTP requests for ads with a higher QOS level, this sounds so very wrong that I
> don't even feel the need to explain that.

Maybe you're right about that

> Why are you so angry with QOS? Do VOIP calls (not skype, eh) on your operator's
> network reduce your torrent download bandwidth? :D (now this is where I get
> trollish).

Not really, I just think it's a way of guaranteeing that the deepest pockets win. That raises the bar for independents and startups.




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