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SubjectRe: a question for you car guys... Reply to this message
Posted byjopezu
Posted on09/09/08 00:38 AM



> > i have a nissan altima 2008 - it's an automatic that can be thrown into a
> > 'tiptronic' mode where you can shift up and down. while test driving it, the
> > salesman said he like to use the tiptronic for engine braking.
> >
> > so, i've played with it some, and it just sounds harsh on the engine. i mean,
> > there's obviously no gas being used, but tossing it into a low gear while
> going
> > 30-50mph (i go down gear by gear... 5th, 4th, 3rd... etc) the rpm's still ramp
> > up and the engine sound binded up.
> >
> > is there any risk of harm to the gear by engine braking? or is it something
> > that can be done very slightly, or is it ok to just tap down into 3rd gear
> doing
> > 45mph?
>
> The gears and transmission, kinda. The engine, definitely. Compression braking
> isn't all that great for the engine. It puts more wear and tear on the engine,
> particularly because you're making it run at high revs. Also, I don't know
> about the more modern semiautomatic transmission designs, but older slushbox
> automatics were kinda harsh when dropping gears like that, like downshifting a
> stick without blipping the throttle and matching revs. Any kind of jerks like
> that are bad for the drivetrain.
>
> Also, you are using gas. The ECM keeps flowing fuel to the engine even at
> closed throttle in order to keep it lit. Granted, it's small compared to wide
> open throttle, but it's there, and two to three times more than if you left it
> in the higher gear.
>
> That said, it's a valid thing to do to get more braking power, and they do it
> all the time in racing, but normally it's engine braking in conjunction with the
> middle pedal, and they're not really concerned with longevity past, say, a few
> hours.
>



so, the short answer is forget about it for daily braking then eh?



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*a question for you car guys...  jopezu09/08/08 11:06 PM
.*I do it on my WRX but only because it sounds cool. -nt- HEH  SatsuNoHiTo09/09/08 10:41 PM
.*Re: a question for you car guys...  wildcat09/09/08 00:11 AM
...Re: a question for you car guys...  jopezu09/09/08 00:38 AM
...*As a general rule I avoid it  wildcat09/09/08 01:26 AM
....*Don't do that on smaller cars  Cereal Killer09/09/08 11:44 AM
....*good for going down slopes though -nt-   newsdee09/09/08 09:38 AM