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SubjectBuilt a new computer new Reply to this message
Posted byMegaHurtz
Posted on05/02/09 03:11 PM



I just finished putting together a new machine last night. Dual core 3.16GHz E8500, 4 gigs of ram, and a Geforce 9600 512meg vid card.

I finally decided to give Vista a try on this new rig. I wanted to see how the 64 bit version worked. I opened up a OEM copy I got from MS and noticed that the sticker on it said 32 bit only. So I looked at the other copy I had (Service Desk Upgrade) that clearly said 32 bit and 64 bit on the front cover. Great. Except that there actually isn't a 64 bit disc in there, and if you do happen to want what is advertised on the front of the box, you need to give MS your product key and order the disc from them for a few bucks. WTF.

Anyway, setup went smoothly and didn't take very long. Hit a big snag when Vista was up and running: I couldn't find a 64 bit driver for my wireless lan card, which made any updates impossible. Some Googling solved that, and once the machine was hooked up to my network, I was really impressed with how slick the OS is about handling drivers and any system problems.

I tried Mame on it, and to my surprise MK4 still has some slowdown in spots. Any other intense 3d games seemed to need CHDs, so that was the only one I tested.

Then I moved on the pcsx2 and tried out some ps2 games. I'm *very* impressed with how solid that emu is. I played Hokuto No Ken and Fire Pro Returns at full speed with virtually no glitches and perfect audio. Smackdown:HCTP also played close to full speed, but at times would seem to slow down a little bit. It surprised me that even the 3D Smackdown seemed to run almost perfectly. I thought ps2 emulation was much buggier...

Is Dreamcast emulation worth checking out?




Subject64bit works very well now days. Reply to this message
Posted bySatsuNoHiTo
Posted on05/02/09 03:18 PM



I haven't had any problems finding 64bit drivers and compatibility is perfect. Make sure you are running SP1, that will make a world of difference with compatibility.

As for MAME and 3D games, I think those are going to be a little slow depending on the system. I've got an E8400 running at 3.9GHz and Naomi in MAME is slow as crap but that's just MAME.




SubjectRe: Built a new computer new Reply to this message
Posted byParatech
Posted on05/02/09 03:23 PM




> Is Dreamcast emulation worth checking out?
>
Yes! it plays very nicely on my Athlon 5000 2.6GHZ Dual Core 2 Gyg Ram GeForce 8600, so your PC should rock with the games!



The new and improved King of Lamers 2003!


SubjectRe: Built a new computer new Reply to this message
Posted byVmprHntrD
Posted on05/02/09 09:53 PM



Nice setup there. I got a 2.6ghz(?) quad core q6600 setup I believe but my card is only a 2600XT HD Radeon with 256MB of ram so maybe that's my issue. But when I ran PCSX2 I did both NHL Hitz 2002 and Legion PS2 and I can't remember on hockey but Legion was 1/2 speed but otherwise was spectacular.

I wonder if it's the card as it's sure as shit not the processor.




SubjectI've got a similar setup... new Reply to this message
Posted byDeath Knight
Posted on05/03/09 08:19 AM



4gb Ram, 9600GT, E8400 3.0Ghz (OC'd to 3.6Ghz).
Get some dreamcast games and try them out, they'll be even smoother than pcsx2.
MAME will always be MAME, but it's a good thing you put 64bit vista, it's actually noticebly faster. Get the MAMEUI 64bit compile, they even have some benchmarks at the site with a similar setup. Except for some insanely power hungry games (Naomi, System 12, 13, and some others, it should be enough to run pretty much anything you throw at it.

And try some PC games if you've been unable to lately. There's a slew of great shit to play that your machine won't have any problem with. I play mostly everything at 1920x1080 without filters at max quality. Some of the more beastly titles need some tinkering to get smooth framerates, but the videocard can hold it's own very well.

All work and no play makes me..., well, you know the rest.


SubjectRe: I've got a similar setup... new Reply to this message
Posted byMegaHurtz
Posted on05/03/09 02:50 PM



> 4gb Ram, 9600GT, E8400 3.0Ghz (OC'd to 3.6Ghz).
> Get some dreamcast games and try them out, they'll be even smoother than pcsx2.
> MAME will always be MAME, but it's a good thing you put 64bit vista, it's
> actually noticebly faster. Get the MAMEUI 64bit compile, they even have some
> benchmarks at the site with a similar setup. Except for some insanely power
> hungry games (Naomi, System 12, 13, and some others, it should be enough to run
> pretty much anything you throw at it.
>
> And try some PC games if you've been unable to lately. There's a slew of great
> shit to play that your machine won't have any problem with. I play mostly
> everything at 1920x1080 without filters at max quality. Some of the more beastly
> titles need some tinkering to get smooth framerates, but the videocard can hold
> it's own very well.
>
> All work and no play makes me..., well, you know the rest.
>

I didn't even know Mame did Naomi now. I just remember seeing a few screenshots of one of the DC emus (Chankast?) doing some very preliminary Naomi stuff some time last year. I'd want to play some of those fighters just so I could use my Hotrod to control them instead of the painfull standard DC controller.

I'm sort of behind on pc gaming. I haven't really played anything since I got my 360 a few years ago. I bought the Orange Box from Steam last weekend for $10 and tried some TF2 on my new system, and it ran fast with every setting maxed. My monitor only does 1280x1024, so I can crank up the graphics settings without much fear :) Maybe I'll hook the system up to my hdtv and see how it looks at 1080p.

I'm also thinking about playing with the overclocking settings, but I'm a little worried that the cpu is already running at about 95 F, and that is after putting a high end cpu cooler on it. Hrm. Need to play with that...


SubjectI'm lazy. new Reply to this message
Posted bysphincter
Posted on05/04/09 03:52 PM



I used to do the latest & greatest PC build about every 18-24 months. Now, I just buy a Mac every 3 years and am done with it.

Not knocking ya... I just don't have the interest anymore. It was fun, but eventually the effort and expense required to keep up with the Joneses just wasn't worth it - particularly when all I really play is older stuff in MAME or Daphne.




SubjectRe: I'm lazy. new Reply to this message
Posted byVmprHntrD
Posted on05/04/09 10:16 PM



> I used to do the latest & greatest PC build about every 18-24 months. Now, I
> just buy a Mac every 3 years and am done with it.
>
> Not knocking ya... I just don't have the interest anymore. It was fun, but
> eventually the effort and expense required to keep up with the Joneses just
> wasn't worth it - particularly when all I really play is older stuff in MAME or
> Daphne.
>

That's why I gave up. Now I don't see the point so I hold onto something until it either gets cost prohibitive and/or just way out of date to do what I need.

I get my gaming action 99% of the time not on PC so I'd rather use something solid and non-upgradable as I know the crap will keep running and as shown on the box.





SubjectRe: I'm lazy. new Reply to this message
Posted byZeroKnightRaiden
Posted on05/05/09 03:32 PM



It used to be I'd get generationally huge gains with a new system every couple of years. Now it's only worth upgrading because something broke (AGP graphics, DDR RAM, processor on outdated socket/chipset, etc.) and it's not cost-effective to replace it anymore vs. moving to a new platform.

My now nearly 5-year-old (with a couple of cheap incremental upgrades) Athlon 64 desktop running a fully patched up Windows XP Pro still does everything I want it to.

I finally replaced an old Compaq Pentium III Mobile laptop last year because the screen blew up and the battery was starting to deflate. I see myself using the sweet Lenovo Thinkpad T61 that suceeded it for a long time to come.

-nZero




SubjectRe: I'm lazy. new Reply to this message
Posted byVmprHntrD
Posted on05/05/09 09:41 PM



My old P4 1.5ghz did too well enough though COD4 wouldn't have had a prayer. The hardware was well into failing in a few ways, one being the clicking sounds of death on the HDD. It had to go before I got hosed. That's basically when I do the big upgrades now, death nell. I'm not against part swaps/upgrades though as that old thing got the ram doubled and quadrupled, cd->dvd, slow burner to a 52x, 32mb video card->64->128MB radeon, and various other crap too. It just was easier and served it's need. As you said the generational gap of the 80s and 90s is dead so why bother.




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