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SubjectPS3 80gig backwards compatibility Reply to this message
Posted byMegaHurtz
Posted on08/18/09 07:15 PM



Anybody have a 80gig PS3 and care to comment on the software backwards compatibility? I see that Sony has a list of compatibility issues on their site, but you need to search for individual titles. I'm guessing PS2 games are still region coded?

I'd like a bluray player, and never had a PS2, so a $300 backwards compatible PS3 is enticing. From what I read, the BC is totally gone from the new slim model, so I'm thinking about the 80 gig one. The old launch 60 gig units are too expensive :(




SubjectRe: PS3 80gig backwards compatibility new Reply to this message
Posted byveetvujagig
Posted on08/18/09 09:09 PM



> Anybody have a 80gig PS3 and care to comment on the software backwards
> compatibility? I see that Sony has a list of compatibility issues on their
> site, but you need to search for individual titles. I'm guessing PS2 games are
> still region coded?
>
> I'd like a bluray player, and never had a PS2, so a $300 backwards compatible
> PS3 is enticing. From what I read, the BC is totally gone from the new slim
> model, so I'm thinking about the 80 gig one. The old launch 60 gig units are
> too expensive :(
>

The only compatibility issue I've run into is with PS1 games that have redbook audio (a la MK Trilogy).

However, good luck finding an 80 gig back compatible unit right now. If I were you, I'd wait for the slim, and the firmware update (rumored) that will restore the back compatibility.


SubjectHere's a refurbished 60GB new Reply to this message
Posted byCereal Killer
Posted on08/19/09 01:51 PM



http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?Product%5FID=64006 This one should have the hardware compatibility




SubjectRe: PS3 80gig backwards compatibility new Reply to this message
Posted byVmprHntrD
Posted on08/19/09 04:16 PM



That thing with the Slim was as far as I've seen debunked, they're not putting PS2 play back in there.

As far as any 80GB unit, short of a rare model revision or two none do PS2, but they all can do PS1 either as disc or downloaded and uses a virtual memory card on the PS3 HDD. I've got like 5 games that way as downloads and they work fantastic.

If you go to the Wikipedia for PS3 it does show the hardware revisions of the various models and what runs PS2 titles and shows how to ID them as well.




SubjectRe: PS3 80gig backwards compatibility new Reply to this message
Posted byBuveed
Posted on08/19/09 04:20 PM



It's not too bad. Out of the 20 or so games i do have, only 2 don't work properly (tekken tag & soul calibur 2. damn namco pack). Sony has a compatibility list to see what games work, don't work and what problems they have on their site somewhere. Only complaint is that the fan does get loud when I start up a PS2 game, much louder than the PS3 games.




SubjectI'm now a PS3 owner :) new Reply to this message
Posted byMegaHurtz
Posted on08/19/09 08:38 PM



I'm sort of leery buying a used/refurbed one, especially since Sony doesn't cover it and the GS warranty is only 30 days, but for $30 over the price of the slim, that is a hard deal to pass up. The wifi alone makes it worth the extra $30.

Set it up after work today. Using hdmi for a/v into the tv right now. I wanted optical for the audio, but the 6ft cable I had is like 4 inches too short to reach the ps3. Gonna have to order a longer one.

First impressions are that the system menu is ugly and horribly jaggy, even at 1080p. Annoyed that the mp3 player closes when I try to enter any other menu. Controller is *super* light. I don't think I've used one this light since the old digital PS1 pads. Web browser doesn't seem half bad, far better than psp and better than the wii. Going to download some demos since I own 0 ps3 games and 0 bluray movies so far :)

I did try out the single ps2 game I own and it played perfectly. I was hoping the load times would speed up, but they seem about what an actual ps2 would do. Being able to use the sixaxis to control the games and set up virtual memory cards on the hdd is NIIIICE.

I thought I read that the ps3 was supposed to be pretty quiet, but I think it was a little louder sitting at the menu than my 360 idle at the dashboard. Nowhere close to the 360 when a disc is spinning though.

I'm testing out the media sharing right now. The online manual said it supports x264 and TS streams, so I'm going to try throwing some HD stuff at it. Going to use WMP11 on my Vista machine to stream it. If it works, I'll be mighty happy since my xbox1 just doesn't have the horepower to do HD and I didn't want to have to install some server programs to get my 360 to stream that stuff. Fingers crossed!

BTW, psn id is same as my gamertag: MegahurtzLIVE. Any suggestions for ps3 exclusive downloadable games? MKII is the only one I know of that I want to get.


SubjectRe: I'm now a PS3 owner :) new Reply to this message
Posted byDracula-X
Posted on08/19/09 09:35 PM



> First impressions are that the system menu is ugly and horribly jaggy, even at

This may be an issue with the TV perhaps. I've seen the jagginess on some LCD models (Vizio for example), and on others it's butter smooth (Sony, Sceptre, and a couple others I can't recall at the moment). *shrug*

> I thought I read that the ps3 was supposed to be pretty quiet, but I think it
> was a little louder sitting at the menu than my 360 idle at the dashboard.
> Nowhere close to the 360 when a disc is spinning though.

Generally it's supposed to be quieter, but it seems there are batches out there that can get louder that some would like. I have a launch unit and it's still disturbingly quieter than my 360, even after playing blu-rays for hours

> I'm testing out the media sharing right now. The online manual said it supports
> x264 and TS streams, so I'm going to try throwing some HD stuff at it. Going to
> use WMP11 on my Vista machine to stream it. If it works, I'll be mighty happy
> since my xbox1 just doesn't have the horepower to do HD and I didn't want to
> have to install some server programs to get my 360 to stream that stuff.
> Fingers crossed!

PS3 Media Server might be worth looking into, easy to set up and the PS3 will eat whatever you throw at it.
http://ps3mediaserver.blogspot.com/




SubjectRe: PS3 80gig backwards compatibility new Reply to this message
Posted byveetvujagig
Posted on08/20/09 02:46 PM



> That thing with the Slim was as far as I've seen debunked, they're not putting
> PS2 play back in there.
>
> As far as any 80GB unit, short of a rare model revision or two none do PS2, but
> they all can do PS1 either as disc or downloaded and uses a virtual memory card
> on the PS3 HDD. I've got like 5 games that way as downloads and they work
> fantastic.
>
> If you go to the Wikipedia for PS3 it does show the hardware revisions of the
> various models and what runs PS2 titles and shows how to ID them as well.
>
>

I'm seeing that the slim is more of sony screwing the end user. Not to mention that with so many hardware revisions on the PS3 (what is it now 8?), the bugs in new firmwares are going to become more and more prevalent.

I got lucky on my 80 gig, I was in a local used game store, and a guy came in looking to sell his, the store didn't have the cash to buy it, so I snagged an 80 gig back-compatible for $200, but it's basically a blue-ray player and a media center for me.


SubjectRe: I'm now a PS3 owner :) new Reply to this message
Posted byMegaHurtz
Posted on08/20/09 08:01 PM



> > I'm testing out the media sharing right now. The online manual said it
> supports
> > x264 and TS streams, so I'm going to try throwing some HD stuff at it. Going
> to
> > use WMP11 on my Vista machine to stream it. If it works, I'll be mighty happy
> > since my xbox1 just doesn't have the horepower to do HD and I didn't want to
> > have to install some server programs to get my 360 to stream that stuff.
> > Fingers crossed!
>
> PS3 Media Server might be worth looking into, easy to set up and the PS3 will
> eat whatever you throw at it.
> http://ps3mediaserver.blogspot.com/
>



I was going nuts last night trying to get it to stream some hd videos from Media Player 11. I had a mp4 that was a bitch to get the ps3 to even recogonize, and once I did it shows up as 0 seconds long in the menu. If you try to play it, it says it cannot be started. I copied it to the ps3 hdd and from there it actually displays the correct length, but still gives the same error on playback.

I did a *LOT* of Googling and it looks like Sony seriously F'ed up HD streaming with the v2.5 firmware and hasn't fixed it since. Fuck this DLNA shit and just add smb support.

I tried ps3mediaserver and even that couldn't get it to work. It did work with a tv show that also wouldn't play through wmp11, but the video quality seemed to drop a bit.




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