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SubjectI wonder how much nintendo pays its anti-piracy people new Reply to this message
Posted bySilentAce
Posted on12/08/11 04:41 PM



3DS literally just came out with an update today and the same day Acekard released a fixed firmware for their flashcart to work with it... Seems like a complete waste of money to even try to lock something out. I imagine the have a guy that does nothing but anti-piracy... but I could be wrong.




SubjectRe: I wonder how much nintendo pays its anti-piracy people new Reply to this message
Posted byBryzian
Posted on12/08/11 06:21 PM



Thats only for playing DS games on the system though. 3DS itself has not been hacked yet and the only thing anyone has even come close to so far is a 1:1 copy of a 3DS game on a cart. But even that is starting to look fake because the team that came forward with it has yet to be heard from since. And it didn't look too good since they only showed one game running. The anti-piracy on 3ds is very strong truthfully. Even stuff for extra data on the SD Card cant be put into a differnt system. Encryption keys are different among games/systems.



> 3DS literally just came out with an update today and the same day Acekard
> released a fixed firmware for their flashcart to work with it... Seems like a
> complete waste of money to even try to lock something out. I imagine the have a
> guy that does nothing but anti-piracy... but I could be wrong.
>





SubjectRe: I wonder how much nintendo pays its anti-piracy people new Reply to this message
Posted bySilentAce
Posted on12/08/11 06:46 PM



True didn't really think of that. It has only been out since the beginning of the year though. My initial comment was about putting in "protections" into updates that just easily get circumvented. Once 3DS roms work... I imagine Nintendo won't be able to stop them from working again... most likely.

Touche though touche. Now lets see if 3DS roms every get working.

> Thats only for playing DS games on the system though. 3DS itself has not been
> hacked yet and the only thing anyone has even come close to so far is a 1:1 copy
> of a 3DS game on a cart. But even that is starting to look fake because the
> team that came forward with it has yet to be heard from since. And it didn't
> look too good since they only showed one game running. The anti-piracy on 3ds
> is very strong truthfully. Even stuff for extra data on the SD Card cant be put
> into a differnt system. Encryption keys are different among games/systems.
>
>
>
> > 3DS literally just came out with an update today and the same day Acekard
> > released a fixed firmware for their flashcart to work with it... Seems like a
> > complete waste of money to even try to lock something out. I imagine the have
> a
> > guy that does nothing but anti-piracy... but I could be wrong.
> >
>





SubjectRe: I wonder how much nintendo pays its anti-piracy people new Reply to this message
Posted byBryzian
Posted on12/08/11 08:03 PM



I wouldn't hold your breath waiting though. From what I hear, Nintendo did something right for a change. Im sure it will eventualy happen, but it could be a long time off yet. Just don't get your hopes up!

> True didn't really think of that. It has only been out since the beginning of
> the year though. My initial comment was about putting in "protections" into
> updates that just easily get circumvented. Once 3DS roms work... I imagine
> Nintendo won't be able to stop them from working again... most likely.
>
> Touche though touche. Now lets see if 3DS roms every get working.
>
> > Thats only for playing DS games on the system though. 3DS itself has not been
> > hacked yet and the only thing anyone has even come close to so far is a 1:1
> copy
> > of a 3DS game on a cart. But even that is starting to look fake because the
> > team that came forward with it has yet to be heard from since. And it didn't
> > look too good since they only showed one game running. The anti-piracy on 3ds
> > is very strong truthfully. Even stuff for extra data on the SD Card cant be
> put
> > into a differnt system. Encryption keys are different among games/systems.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 3DS literally just came out with an update today and the same day Acekard
> > > released a fixed firmware for their flashcart to work with it... Seems like
> a
> > > complete waste of money to even try to lock something out. I imagine the
> have
> > a
> > > guy that does nothing but anti-piracy... but I could be wrong.
> > >
> >
>





SubjectRe: I wonder how much nintendo pays its anti-piracy people Reply to this message
Posted bySilentAce
Posted on12/08/11 09:46 PM



Guess I may have to go buy mario kart 7 then lol. I think it's funny because I will probably buy a used copy off ebay... which doesn't give nintendo or the publisher any money lol. Pirating has always been my "stick it to gamestop" plan.

> I wouldn't hold your breath waiting though. From what I hear, Nintendo did
> something right for a change. Im sure it will eventualy happen, but it could be
> a long time off yet. Just don't get your hopes up!
>
> > True didn't really think of that. It has only been out since the beginning of
> > the year though. My initial comment was about putting in "protections" into
> > updates that just easily get circumvented. Once 3DS roms work... I imagine
> > Nintendo won't be able to stop them from working again... most likely.
> >
> > Touche though touche. Now lets see if 3DS roms every get working.
> >
> > > Thats only for playing DS games on the system though. 3DS itself has not
> been
> > > hacked yet and the only thing anyone has even come close to so far is a 1:1
> > copy
> > > of a 3DS game on a cart. But even that is starting to look fake because the
> > > team that came forward with it has yet to be heard from since. And it
> didn't
> > > look too good since they only showed one game running. The anti-piracy on
> 3ds
> > > is very strong truthfully. Even stuff for extra data on the SD Card cant be
> > put
> > > into a differnt system. Encryption keys are different among games/systems.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > 3DS literally just came out with an update today and the same day Acekard
> > > > released a fixed firmware for their flashcart to work with it... Seems
> like
> > a
> > > > complete waste of money to even try to lock something out. I imagine the
> > have
> > > a
> > > > guy that does nothing but anti-piracy... but I could be wrong.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





SubjectRe: I wonder how much nintendo pays its anti-piracy people new Reply to this message
Posted byVmprHntrD
Posted on12/11/11 00:52 AM



> 3DS literally just came out with an update today and the same day Acekard
> released a fixed firmware for their flashcart to work with it... Seems like a
> complete waste of money to even try to lock something out. I imagine the have a
> guy that does nothing but anti-piracy... but I could be wrong.
>

DS only though, as already pointed out the 3DS isn't busted. This actually goes back to the DSi though with dsiware as a piracy lockdown test bed. Notice there's no real warez out there for dsiware titles or virtual console roms? They took a lot of lessons from the DS being busted open and invented a few things and revised it even more heavily with the 3DS and its eShop.

Basically they have that RSA encryption again, 128bit, which DS had. The DSiware and 3DS/eShop though are more advanced in that they went deeper with unique codes per game where the system can poll the data and see if its legit. I have not dug too deep to see if someone figured out how to break the encryption on games saved to the SD cards, but I've never seen a big press fubar thing going on crying about it so I doubt it. As stated that story of the 1:1 copying of a 3DS card is likely bullshit, or at least partly which means bullshit still even if you get 1/2 the data and fake fill the holes.

I'm actually pretty happy Nintendo figured out what everyone else so far has grossly failed to do. I can only imagine what even deeper steps they'll do with the WiiU, perhaps 256bit encryption, random codes, and another set of lock and key to screw with people. It's hard to say, but they seem to for all the whiny pirate taunting have figured out how to screw them over fairly well.




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