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SubjectClose minded admins Reply to this message
Posted byConsoleclassix
Posted on07/20/05 10:28 AM



As some of you already know, I had an account banned and some posts deleted from these forums about a month ago. You guys threatened me, and my company. I wasn't upset about it, I just said go ahead and even tried to clear up false details that you guys were gonna send in. My point is that I was right and all you guys would do is revert back to what you think you know without really listening to what I have to say, or even asking me to elaborate. You know the funny thing is that when we first came out we tried to hook up with Retrogames and crosslink with them. They laughed at us and called us pirates. Then, we were featured on Slashdot. Shortly thereafter, we saw a newspost on Retrogames about us, now you guys are right back to laughing and namecalling. It's ok though, how did that turning us into the authorities go by the way? I predict that question will go unanswered. I also predict that this post will be deleted even though it is not spam or flame. It will be deleted because I THINK(im not sure mind you) that the admins of these forums are close minded and presume to know so much, that there is no way I could actually know what I'm talking about. So, if you are reading this, enjoy, because it probably won't be up long.




SubjectJust go away - you're not wanted here -nt- new Reply to this message
Posted byMarv
Posted on07/20/05 01:05 PM



> As some of you already know, I had an account banned and some posts deleted from
> these forums about a month ago. You guys threatened me, and my company. I wasn't
> upset about it, I just said go ahead and even tried to clear up false details
> that you guys were gonna send in. My point is that I was right and all you guys
> would do is revert back to what you think you know without really listening to
> what I have to say, or even asking me to elaborate. You know the funny thing is
> that when we first came out we tried to hook up with Retrogames and crosslink
> with them. They laughed at us and called us pirates. Then, we were featured on
> Slashdot. Shortly thereafter, we saw a newspost on Retrogames about us, now you
> guys are right back to laughing and namecalling. It's ok though, how did that
> turning us into the authorities go by the way? I predict that question will go
> unanswered. I also predict that this post will be deleted even though it is not
> spam or flame. It will be deleted because I THINK(im not sure mind you) that the
> admins of these forums are close minded and presume to know so much, that there
> is no way I could actually know what I'm talking about. So, if you are reading
> this, enjoy, because it probably won't be up long.
>





SubjectQuestion ... new Reply to this message
Posted byJAW
Posted on07/20/05 05:33 PM



I'm curious - why are you so concerned with the admins and people on these boards? For someone with such a busy little production like yours, why take the time to pursue such a trivial matter? Obviously, you are the type that likes to toot their own horn. Okay, you win. Is that what you wanted to hear? Do you get your rocks off by hearing someone else admitting defeat? Obviously you do and that's pathetic. Only someone that has a small penis does something like that. You have to compensate your small penis size with the necessity of showing someone up. Nice!

Jason


SubjectRe: Answer new Reply to this message
Posted byConsoleclassix
Posted on07/21/05 02:03 PM



The reason I concerned myself with the people of these board is that the admins banned me for posting on that topic. I didn't spam and I was also "yelled" at for posting on a topic someone made about MY site. I "get my rocks off" by standing up for what I beleive in. I beleive in freedom of speech, and I also beleive that breaking the law is wrong. I don't like being accused of things I haven't done, and despite the advice of my superiors, I chose to keep posting in this forum. They said, "you'll never get through to them, don't waste time, get to work!" But as you can see, I did get through to you. And I'm glad. I'm upset by your childish remarks, I feel bad that I upset you. The only thing I ever wanted from you was a little respect, and maybe even honest feedback. I can see those don't come easy here. I would like to have pleasant and, dare I say, educational conversations with you guys. If this is not possible, then just let me know and I will gladly stop posting in your forums. Again I apologize for any ill feelings I may have caused.




Subjecti disagree with you completely new Reply to this message
Posted byJAW
Posted on07/21/05 04:51 PM



> The reason I concerned myself with the people of these board is that the admins
> banned me for posting on that topic. I didn't spam and I was also "yelled" at
> for posting on a topic someone made about MY site. I "get my rocks off" by
> standing up for what I beleive in. I beleive in freedom of speech, and I also
> beleive that breaking the law is wrong. I don't like being accused of things I
> haven't done, and despite the advice of my superiors, I chose to keep posting in
> this forum. They said, "you'll never get through to them, don't waste time, get
> to work!" But as you can see, I did get through to you. And I'm glad. I'm upset
> by your childish remarks, I feel bad that I upset you. The only thing I ever
> wanted from you was a little respect, and maybe even honest feedback. I can see
> those don't come easy here. I would like to have pleasant and, dare I say,
> educational conversations with you guys. If this is not possible, then just let
> me know and I will gladly stop posting in your forums. Again I apologize for any
> ill feelings I may have caused.
>


You didn't "get through" to me. I don't agree with what you are doing, plain and simple. What you are doing is wrong. Just because something isn't illegal (or shall I say no legal action has been taken on it yet), that doesn't make it right. You are charging people to play games that you own. How is that a good thing? (Other than the obvious - making money) If that's your thing, go for it. If no legal action is being taken than obviously you can get away with it and you have gotten over on the law. Nice! I'm not going to debate the issue. If you are so confident about your work, place a poll on your website asking people if they agree with paying to play YOUR games is right or wrong. I believe that you will find more "wrong" than "right".

End of discussion from my end.

Jason


Subjectteasing the mods in deleting this? childish behavior... new Reply to this message
Posted byskydoune
Posted on07/21/05 06:19 PM



Mommmy wow! I'm a big kid now.

Seriously, that part made me forget everything else you said, and it ain't good.




SubjectNo debate? new Reply to this message
Posted byConsoleclassix
Posted on07/22/05 11:39 AM



So you just won't reply anymore huh? Well don't worry, I don't need you to. By your logic, Blockbuster and any other video rental store are evil. Why should they be allowed to buy games and then let other people play them for a fee. The fact that there are millions of people using services like these, proves that most americans do not think it is wrong for me to do what I am doing. I charge people a flat rate to play the games they loved as a kid(the ones I have anyway) as much as they want. The only difference between my service and Blockbuster is that you can play mine on your PC.




Subjectyou missed the point genius ... new Reply to this message
Posted byJAW
Posted on07/23/05 11:57 AM



> So you just won't reply anymore huh? Well don't worry, I don't need you to. By
> your logic, Blockbuster and any other video rental store are evil. Why should
> they be allowed to buy games and then let other people play them for a fee. The
> fact that there are millions of people using services like these, proves that
> most americans do not think it is wrong for me to do what I am doing. I charge
> people a flat rate to play the games they loved as a kid(the ones I have anyway)
> as much as they want. The only difference between my service and Blockbuster is
> that you can play mine on your PC.
>


Did you ask Nintendo if what you are doing is legit? I'm quite sure that compamies such as Blockbuster have contracts and have gone about it the legal and moral way, unlike what you are doing. Your reasoning for your service is that people can play games "they loved as a kid". That reason is a blanket for "I'm making money charging people to play games I own and they don't" Nice business you have there. By the way, I think I'll register to post on your messageboard and spread the word about how the same people you charge to play those games, can play those same games for free with an emulator. I think I'll post some ROM links as well. Thanks for the inspiration!

Jason


SubjectRe: YOU missed the point genius ... new Reply to this message
Posted byConsoleclassix
Posted on07/25/05 11:39 AM



I thik you missed the point. I don't have to ask Nintendo. I used to run a Video Rental Store and, just like Blockbuster, I didn't need Nintendo's, Sony's, or Sega's permission. I mean it sounds like your major complaint is that I make money. I mean, why don't those farmer S.O.B.'s give their crops away instead of making us spend our hard earned money?! Heck, your the one thinking of promoting piracy, sounds like evil to me. I know, you don't think it's evil, just illeagal. Well in my book, it is evil to break the law, and/or promote breaking the law. I mean, if you knew the difference between right and wrong, I don't think you would be sitting there thinking I'm evil because I need to make a living, and tried to do so this way. The truth is, whether or not you think I am legal, you must realize that I have done a lot of work to try to be legal. Which means my intentions are good. If I am just using the phrase, "play the games you loved as a kid," to hide my money making scheme, how come I offer a large number of my games for free? Heck, we don't even hit them up with popups to make money off of them. It's not that I don't need money. There are costs to running a buisness. I get paid very little, along with the rest of our staff, so we can offer this service to our customers. The truth is, we are all Christians trying to offer a legal, and moral alternative to sofware piracy(AND make some money). Money is not the root of all evil. That is a misquote.(the Bible is the most misquotted book of all time BTW) The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. We don't love money, but we do need it like everyone else. We don't need it so bad that we would run a pornsite, sell drugs, or do anything else that is wrong for that matter. We just want to make an honest living, and offer a way to play the old games legally, and therefore, morally.




SubjectIn closing ... new Reply to this message
Posted byJAW
Posted on07/25/05 04:25 PM



In closing, let me just say that you seem to be very bothered by my comments. Listen, we are both spending way too much time on this. Me as an antagonist :) and you trying to justify what you are doing. The bottom line is - I couldn't care less. Since you and I seem to be the only people discussing this, let it rest now and let's go about life as we did before you started posting here.

Life is way too short to go on with this. Live life and have fun!

Jason


SubjectRe: In closing ... new Reply to this message
Posted byConsoleclassix
Posted on07/26/05 02:53 PM



Well said! That is a great idea, let's just do the American thing and agree to disagree. :)




SubjectRe: you missed the point genius ... new Reply to this message
Posted byGriking
Posted on08/14/05 08:04 PM



> Did you ask Nintendo if what you are doing is legit? I'm quite sure that
> compamies such as Blockbuster have contracts and have gone about it the legal
> and moral way, unlike what you are doing.

Actually in Japan is was illegal to rent videogames for the longest time because companies like Nintendo were bitching that they were loosing revenue because of it. They never convinced the US to pass such a law but game rentals were definately against the law at one point in time in Japan. So as far as your comment above goes companies like Blockbuster do in fact rent games even though Nintendo definately doesn't approve of it




SubjectActually I Love his Company new Reply to this message
Posted byGriking
Posted on08/14/05 08:06 PM



Not really but who the hell are you to speak for me?


> > As some of you already know, I had an account banned and some posts deleted
> from
> > these forums about a month ago. You guys threatened me, and my company. I
> wasn't
> > upset about it, I just said go ahead and even tried to clear up false details
> > that you guys were gonna send in. My point is that I was right and all you
> guys
> > would do is revert back to what you think you know without really listening to
> > what I have to say, or even asking me to elaborate. You know the funny thing
> is
> > that when we first came out we tried to hook up with Retrogames and crosslink
> > with them. They laughed at us and called us pirates. Then, we were featured on
> > Slashdot. Shortly thereafter, we saw a newspost on Retrogames about us, now
> you
> > guys are right back to laughing and namecalling. It's ok though, how did that
> > turning us into the authorities go by the way? I predict that question will go
> > unanswered. I also predict that this post will be deleted even though it is
> not
> > spam or flame. It will be deleted because I THINK(im not sure mind you) that
> the
> > admins of these forums are close minded and presume to know so much, that
> there
> > is no way I could actually know what I'm talking about. So, if you are reading
> > this, enjoy, because it probably won't be up long.
> >
>





SubjectWhat? new Reply to this message
Posted byMarv
Posted on08/15/05 03:23 AM



Just because you're an admin, doesn't mean you own the forums - forums belong to the people. Rock on!




SubjectRe: YOU missed the point genius ... new Reply to this message
Posted bysmf
Posted on10/30/05 04:05 AM



> I thik you missed the point. I don't have to ask Nintendo. I used to run a Video
> Rental Store and, just like Blockbuster, I didn't need Nintendo's, Sony's, or
> Sega's permission.

As long as you are shipping the cartridges out and getting them returned afterwards then you are fine. If you are distributing them in any form other than you originally bought them then you are breaking copyright.

Renting is generally prohibited in the terms and conditions on the retail media of games and movies. Blockbuster don't buy retail. Whether they can legally enforce this is down to local laws, however it's obviously a moral problem.

For christians out to make some honest dough, you seem to be misguided.

smf





Subjectgrikingforums.com -nt- new Reply to this message
Posted by[seh]
Posted on11/21/05 07:35 AM



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