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Posted bySamor
Posted on01/24/01 03:49 AM



> > I know that the original Gradius 2 is for MSX and exist one EXCELLENT version
> > for Sharp X68000!
>
> I think you are talking about Nemesis '90 for the X68000, which is in fact a
> port of an MSX game, but not any Gradius 2 for MSX2+, but Nemesis 2 for the
> normal MSX. The X68000 game Gradius 2 is a port of the arcade game Gradius 2,
> and this game was NOT originated in the MSX computer.
>
> For a review and comparison of both games, check out my site.
>
> - Akira
> Shmups Mk2 - Showcasing the best 2D shoot'em ups ever!
> http://www.classicgaming.com/shmups
>

to make things even more complicated: nemesis 3 on msx looks a lot like gradius 2 arcade, especially the first level (fire planets).....MSX2+ displays the japanese names of the msx nemesis games (and many other konami games)....yep, they have different languages built in in the cartridge..(a bit like that street fighter alpha labguages switch I guess, just to compare it to something everybody knows ;))..this causes the following:
nemesis2 is called gradius2 on msx2+ ....so there we have the mystery solved :)
nemesis 3 is called gradius episode 2 (and some japanese text)

another nice one: the msx versions have a different storyline (did the arcade versions even have one?) and it goes in the following order:

* nemesis1 - ivasion of the bacterions, ship is vic viper

* nemesis2 - invasion of dr. venom, james burton is the pilot of the metallion (your ship), he becomes emperor lars 18th after defeating dr. venom

* salamander - kind of side story: the zelos force attacks planet latis...this was predicted years ago. (you'll find predictions (they're a bit cryptic) throughout the game on secret places). our nemesis 2 hero james burton/lars 18th receives a call for help from latis....2 hyper space fighters ('sable tiger', pilot iggy rock and 'trasher', pilot zowie scott) are sent to latis to kick that zelos force's ass. Note that you need nemesis 2 in your second cart slot in order to succesfully complete the game (there's a good ending and a bad ending)....probably a commercial stunt from konami :)

* nemesis 3 - years have passed, but now the bacterions are back! They want to travel back in time to kidnap and kill baby james burton. You are his descendant (son probably), david burton, and you're going to travel back in time as well in order to prevent history from changing using a new type of ship called 'vixen' (there are four of them, each with different weapons). Travelling back in time means meeting some old friend (err enemies) again like the moai heads and dr. venom....uh oh!!! This game has 2 endings as well....you need a certain item...if you don't have the item you will safe history but get killed yourself. If you have the item you will succesfully complete the game.

pretty nice storyline for a shmup-series IMO :)


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*MSX Games!  PS_X101/19/01 02:49 AM
.*cool!  Samor01/19/01 06:54 AM
..*Re: cool!  PS_X101/19/01 07:21 PM
...*Hmmm  Akira[mk2]01/20/01 08:51 PM
....*MSX Board LINK!  PS_X101/21/01 01:58 AM
....*Errr  PS_X101/21/01 00:22 AM
...*MSX Cassette Games.  PS_X101/19/01 10:41 PM
....*I don't think I can convert the game to .DSK .....  Samor01/22/01 08:47 AM
.....*Not count with this DUMPED!  PS_X101/23/01 01:46 AM
......*Re: Not count with this DUMPED!  Samor01/23/01 03:28 AM
.......*Maybe...  PS_X101/23/01 08:26 PM
........*Re: Maybe...  Samor01/24/01 02:24 AM
.........*Sim City  PS_X111/15/01 00:23 AM
.........*Europe!  PS_X101/24/01 02:58 AM
..........*you know what...  Samor01/24/01 03:27 AM
...........*Used games...  PS_X101/27/01 02:21 AM
............*Re: Used games...  Samor01/29/01 05:16 AM
.............*Re: Used games...  PS_X104/30/01 09:38 PM
..............*Re: Used games...  Samor05/01/01 02:47 AM
...........*shit...a few problems..  Samor01/24/01 04:44 PM
........*Excuse me...  Akira[mk2]01/24/01 01:49 AM
.........*Fray  PS_X101/27/01 02:19 AM
..........*Re: Fray  Akira[mk2]01/28/01 06:32 PM
...........*Re: Fray  PS_X106/22/01 01:16 AM
...........*Re: Fray  Samor01/29/01 05:13 AM
............*AAMSX   PS_X106/22/01 01:18 AM
.............*Re: AAMSX   Samor06/28/01 08:32 AM
..........Re: Excuse me...  Samor01/24/01 03:49 AM