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Posted byShawn
Posted on11/22/04 02:39 PM



That would still be some progress in my opinion :) Up untill now Raz has had us believe that each game or revision has an entirely different encryption key.

> > Thats exactly what I was thinking. There would be no point in making an xor
> to
> > run previously xored program roms run in a different region. But on the other
> > hand, I'd imagine some knowledge of the encryption is needed to run unxored
> > program roms with a hacked xor. It would be nice if someone in the know would
> > comment with a little more than just "nope".
>
> Calling it a hacked XOR could mean anything even just a change to the rom
> checksum. Which would probably be required.
>
> Understanding the encryption wouldn't be required just knowing how the xor's are
> applied to make changes to code.
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > This line makes me think other wise.
> > >
> > > "these new XOR's contain incorrect information in relation to what the real
> > > encryption would return for many addresses when compared to real hardware."
> > >
> > > If they were just changing code to alter the region it wouldn't affect the
> > game.
> > > Other than the normal problems of using region codes with some games. I
> think
> > > what he's getting at is some clone games may use the same encryption key.
> And
> > > since the code would be similar too the XOR works. But different revs. or
> > > regions will still have code changes that would be incorrect when you apply
> an
> > > XOR not made for it.
> > >
> > > If this is true it leads me to speculate that the key could be quite small
> if
> > > there's a lot of games that work like this. The remaining games could be
> brute
> > > forced easily if the algorithm was known.
> > >
> > > Consider this why would someone bother hacking XOR's to do a region switch
> > when
> > > most CPS2 emu's support region switching. And why would Raz comment on
> > something
> > > that pathetic? Really no one would care.
> > >
> >
>


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*Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Shawn11/22/04 04:49 AM
.*CHK OUT http://www.emuchrist.org/therazfiles/therazfiles1.html NT  rocko72071ll11/27/04 09:00 PM
..*Re: CHK OUT http://www.emuchrist.org/therazfiles/therazfiles1.html NT  finaldave11/27/04 10:20 PM
.*HMmm  TheDarkAbyss11/26/04 09:37 PM
..*Horray! CPS-3 please? -nt-  LordEvilElmo11/27/04 01:12 PM
...*CPS3 can only be emulated by brute forcing the boards up TheDarkAbyss's anus -nt-  Johnick11/28/04 07:28 PM
....*CPS3 Hint  TheDarkAbyss11/30/04 02:23 AM
.....*JUSTIFY OR DELETE!  TheDarkAbyss12/01/04 03:15 PM
.*Don't bother with them at all.....  smf11/23/04 06:13 AM
..*Quick Question!   Shawn11/23/04 04:55 PM
..*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/23/04 01:22 PM
...*Plz send your wife to bitch us out again NT thx  Ryu_Saotome11/27/04 07:18 AM
...*WENDYSHOCK WILL FOREVER 0WN J00 )nt( 0WNAG3  InspectorGadget11/26/04 01:55 PM
...*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  [Haze]11/23/04 07:08 PM
....*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/24/04 07:24 AM
.....*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Videoman11/25/04 07:26 AM
......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/25/04 05:47 PM
.......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  VmprHntrD11/26/04 01:42 PM
.......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Videoman11/26/04 07:19 AM
........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Twisty11/26/04 05:55 PM
.........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  finaldave11/26/04 07:52 PM
.......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  [Haze]11/25/04 06:45 PM
........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Videoman11/26/04 07:21 AM
........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/26/04 00:15 AM
.........*People don't have obligations to you.  dean11/26/04 09:09 AM
..........*Re: People don't have obligations to you.  Razoola11/26/04 01:10 PM
...........*Re: People don't have obligations to you.  Fakester11/26/04 06:35 PM
.........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  [Haze]11/26/04 02:34 AM
..........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/26/04 01:27 PM
...........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  smf11/30/04 12:20 PM
............*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  finaldave11/30/04 07:54 PM
.............*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  smf12/02/04 01:01 PM
.............*Get some help :| -nt-  Purple Rain12/01/04 00:49 AM
...........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  finaldave11/26/04 07:29 PM
...........*Gimme more XOR's ahead of release, biotch. )nt( rename to vsav and run in finalburn  InspectorGadget11/26/04 01:59 PM
....*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  finaldave11/23/04 07:35 PM
.....*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Videoman11/25/04 07:23 AM
......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/25/04 06:15 PM
.......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Videoman11/26/04 08:21 AM
.......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  finaldave11/26/04 07:44 AM
.....*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/24/04 07:29 AM
......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  finaldave11/26/04 07:38 PM
...*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Purple Rain11/23/04 02:04 PM
.*Send paypal to Cash00la for details *nt*  BBQmyNUTZ11/22/04 02:23 PM
..*Justify or Delete (nt)  Smitdogg11/23/04 00:13 AM
..*My god  finaldave11/22/04 06:21 PM
...*Post deleted by Goblin  Goblin12/03/04 10:57 AM
....*Tekken sux NT whore  Ryu_Saotome12/04/04 03:19 PM
...*Will Retrogames please unban me from their message boards -nt-  Johnick11/23/04 08:06 PM
...*Justify or Delete (nt)  Smitdogg11/23/04 00:12 AM
....*If you rename roms I quit the scene *nt* kthnxbye  BBQmyNUTZ11/23/04 00:37 AM
.....*LOL!!!! How someone could say that without feeling stupid about themselves is beyond me! -nt-  Purple Rain11/23/04 08:37 PM
......*LOL  finaldave11/25/04 07:23 AM
.....*At least  Smitdogg11/23/04 12:53 PM
...*People, what have you done *nt* Locked him in his golden cage  wildcat11/22/04 10:53 PM
...*Re: My god  Fakester11/22/04 07:39 PM
....*Re: My god  BBQmyNUTZ11/22/04 10:24 PM
.....*Re: Why have you forsaken me -nt-  lux_9288611/23/04 11:21 AM
..*Re: What no zombie dog jokes? (nt)  Malice11/22/04 02:33 PM
...*Justify or Delete (nt)  Smitdogg11/23/04 00:13 AM
...*Re: What no zombie dog jokes? (nt)  BBQmyNUTZ11/22/04 10:25 PM
.*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Roman11/22/04 06:46 AM
..*Justify or Delete (nt)  Smitdogg11/23/04 00:13 AM
..*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Terry Bogard11/22/04 09:30 AM
...*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Malice11/22/04 12:52 PM
....*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Videoman11/25/04 07:08 AM
....*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Shawn11/22/04 01:56 PM
.....*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Terry Bogard11/22/04 02:38 PM
......*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Shawn11/22/04 02:46 PM
.......*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Videoman11/25/04 07:10 AM
.......*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  MrClick11/22/04 05:40 PM
........*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Purple Rain11/22/04 06:54 PM
........*My question then is....  Shawn11/22/04 06:33 PM
.........*Re: My question then is....  Videoman11/25/04 07:12 AM
.........*Re: My question then is....  BBQmyNUTZ11/22/04 10:29 PM
..........*Re: My question then is....  Targaff11/24/04 01:16 PM
...........*Re: My question then is....  Videoman11/25/04 07:33 AM
............*Re: My question then is....  finaldave11/26/04 08:03 PM
............*Re: My question then is....  Razoola11/26/04 00:26 AM
.............*Re: My question then is....  Videoman11/26/04 07:47 AM
..............*Re: My question then is....  smf11/30/04 12:43 PM
...........*Re: My question then is....  BBQmyNUTZ11/24/04 05:29 PM
...........*Re: My question then is....  MetalFox11/24/04 01:25 PM
..........*Justify or Delete (nt)  Smitdogg11/23/04 00:14 AM
..........*Re: My question then is....  Shawn11/22/04 10:55 PM
.....*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Malice11/22/04 02:31 PM
.......Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Shawn11/22/04 02:39 PM
.......*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  [Haze]11/23/04 02:44 AM
........*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Videoman11/25/04 07:16 AM
........*Well if any good has come from this, its got Kai's ass out of retirement -nt-  Johnick11/23/04 08:12 PM
.........*Most would disagree that it is a good thing. Heh... *nt*  BBQmyNUTZ11/24/04 05:30 PM