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SubjectRe: Don't bother with them at all..... Reply to this message
Posted byRazoola
Posted on11/25/04 06:15 PM



> Both myself and OG requested some (specific, particular) data-tables, Raz
> refused to provide, claiming that he wouldn't help crack the actual encryption
> until CPS2 was no longer sold. Now, if he really cared about preservation, he
> would have dumped those sorts of data-tables necessary (which he claimed to be
> able to do, with his hardware setup), and h0ard3d them until such time as CPS2
> was no longer being sold, and therefore fair game to work on breaking. Somehow,
> I doubt that he had that much foresight and wisdom. Especially if it would cut
> his chances of "Send Paypal" a second time.

Well I remember a request from OG but then about 2 weeks after that a new CPS2 game was released (hsf2). So I stopped as that put another 3 years on the clock.

> While Raz may be to thank, for getting them playable, he may also be to blame,
> for them not getting properly preserved. Such confounding duality.

Sorry but I have made these games totally preseravable. I have made public a method to bring suicide games back to life without the need for a battery plus they will never die again from suicide. Emulation is not the be all and end all of preservation, you do not have the physical aspect of the game and like everyone knows emulation cannot be 100% accurate to the original. My suicide fix info preserve the game totally from suicide in its true physical medium. This alone is far more important for a Capcom Game collector rather than seeing the protection algo emulated in some form in emulation (esp as Capcom will no longer repair suicide boards).

Finally I would say that you are to blame for not getting the correct algo running for MAME, not me because I have made it perfectly clear that I will not give out info (that I dont even have) while there are newer games on the system. You have simply spent some 3 years slagging me off instead of actually getting up and doing it yourself, why if its so important to you? In the process you have made me less willing to actually get up and get more data when I feel the time is right to do so. No doubt you will go on for another 3 years with the same attitude and then maybe one day you will realise that the fate of CPS2 algo emulation does not rest on my head but yours for sitting back and expecting others to do it for you. Before you know it it will be to late to start.

Just think if 3 years ago you actually started to get the info yourself... Maybe you would have done it already... but look here now 3 years later... NOT... this in itsself tells me alot.

Fact

It took me just over 1 year physical time to do it and about 10 months of that was doing nothing waiting for hardware. You also know the method. In effect it should take somone with the neccessary hardware less than 2 weeks to get data and thats very well over estimating.

Raz




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*Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Shawn11/22/04 04:49 AM
.*CHK OUT http://www.emuchrist.org/therazfiles/therazfiles1.html NT  rocko72071ll11/27/04 09:00 PM
..*Re: CHK OUT http://www.emuchrist.org/therazfiles/therazfiles1.html NT  finaldave11/27/04 10:20 PM
.*HMmm  TheDarkAbyss11/26/04 09:37 PM
..*Horray! CPS-3 please? -nt-  LordEvilElmo11/27/04 01:12 PM
...*CPS3 can only be emulated by brute forcing the boards up TheDarkAbyss's anus -nt-  Johnick11/28/04 07:28 PM
....*CPS3 Hint  TheDarkAbyss11/30/04 02:23 AM
.....*JUSTIFY OR DELETE!  TheDarkAbyss12/01/04 03:15 PM
.*Don't bother with them at all.....  smf11/23/04 06:13 AM
..*Quick Question!   Shawn11/23/04 04:55 PM
..*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/23/04 01:22 PM
...*Plz send your wife to bitch us out again NT thx  Ryu_Saotome11/27/04 07:18 AM
...*WENDYSHOCK WILL FOREVER 0WN J00 )nt( 0WNAG3  InspectorGadget11/26/04 01:55 PM
...*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  [Haze]11/23/04 07:08 PM
....*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/24/04 07:24 AM
.....*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Videoman11/25/04 07:26 AM
......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/25/04 05:47 PM
.......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  VmprHntrD11/26/04 01:42 PM
.......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Videoman11/26/04 07:19 AM
........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Twisty11/26/04 05:55 PM
.........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  finaldave11/26/04 07:52 PM
.......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  [Haze]11/25/04 06:45 PM
........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Videoman11/26/04 07:21 AM
........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/26/04 00:15 AM
.........*People don't have obligations to you.  dean11/26/04 09:09 AM
..........*Re: People don't have obligations to you.  Razoola11/26/04 01:10 PM
...........*Re: People don't have obligations to you.  Fakester11/26/04 06:35 PM
.........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  [Haze]11/26/04 02:34 AM
..........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/26/04 01:27 PM
...........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  smf11/30/04 12:20 PM
............*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  finaldave11/30/04 07:54 PM
.............*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  smf12/02/04 01:01 PM
.............*Get some help :| -nt-  Purple Rain12/01/04 00:49 AM
...........*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  finaldave11/26/04 07:29 PM
...........*Gimme more XOR's ahead of release, biotch. )nt( rename to vsav and run in finalburn  InspectorGadget11/26/04 01:59 PM
....*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  finaldave11/23/04 07:35 PM
.....*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Videoman11/25/04 07:23 AM
.......Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/25/04 06:15 PM
.......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Videoman11/26/04 08:21 AM
.......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  finaldave11/26/04 07:44 AM
.....*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Razoola11/24/04 07:29 AM
......*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  finaldave11/26/04 07:38 PM
...*Re: Don't bother with them at all.....  Purple Rain11/23/04 02:04 PM
.*Send paypal to Cash00la for details *nt*  BBQmyNUTZ11/22/04 02:23 PM
..*Justify or Delete (nt)  Smitdogg11/23/04 00:13 AM
..*My god  finaldave11/22/04 06:21 PM
...*Post deleted by Goblin  Goblin12/03/04 10:57 AM
....*Tekken sux NT whore  Ryu_Saotome12/04/04 03:19 PM
...*Will Retrogames please unban me from their message boards -nt-  Johnick11/23/04 08:06 PM
...*Justify or Delete (nt)  Smitdogg11/23/04 00:12 AM
....*If you rename roms I quit the scene *nt* kthnxbye  BBQmyNUTZ11/23/04 00:37 AM
.....*LOL!!!! How someone could say that without feeling stupid about themselves is beyond me! -nt-  Purple Rain11/23/04 08:37 PM
......*LOL  finaldave11/25/04 07:23 AM
.....*At least  Smitdogg11/23/04 12:53 PM
...*People, what have you done *nt* Locked him in his golden cage  wildcat11/22/04 10:53 PM
...*Re: My god  Fakester11/22/04 07:39 PM
....*Re: My god  BBQmyNUTZ11/22/04 10:24 PM
.....*Re: Why have you forsaken me -nt-  lux_9288611/23/04 11:21 AM
..*Re: What no zombie dog jokes? (nt)  Malice11/22/04 02:33 PM
...*Justify or Delete (nt)  Smitdogg11/23/04 00:13 AM
...*Re: What no zombie dog jokes? (nt)  BBQmyNUTZ11/22/04 10:25 PM
.*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Roman11/22/04 06:46 AM
..*Justify or Delete (nt)  Smitdogg11/23/04 00:13 AM
..*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Terry Bogard11/22/04 09:30 AM
...*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Malice11/22/04 12:52 PM
....*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Videoman11/25/04 07:08 AM
....*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Shawn11/22/04 01:56 PM
.....*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Terry Bogard11/22/04 02:38 PM
......*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Shawn11/22/04 02:46 PM
.......*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Videoman11/25/04 07:10 AM
.......*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  MrClick11/22/04 05:40 PM
........*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Purple Rain11/22/04 06:54 PM
........*My question then is....  Shawn11/22/04 06:33 PM
.........*Re: My question then is....  Videoman11/25/04 07:12 AM
.........*Re: My question then is....  BBQmyNUTZ11/22/04 10:29 PM
..........*Re: My question then is....  Targaff11/24/04 01:16 PM
...........*Re: My question then is....  Videoman11/25/04 07:33 AM
............*Re: My question then is....  finaldave11/26/04 08:03 PM
............*Re: My question then is....  Razoola11/26/04 00:26 AM
.............*Re: My question then is....  Videoman11/26/04 07:47 AM
..............*Re: My question then is....  smf11/30/04 12:43 PM
...........*Re: My question then is....  BBQmyNUTZ11/24/04 05:29 PM
...........*Re: My question then is....  MetalFox11/24/04 01:25 PM
..........*Justify or Delete (nt)  Smitdogg11/23/04 00:14 AM
..........*Re: My question then is....  Shawn11/22/04 10:55 PM
.....*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Malice11/22/04 02:31 PM
......*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Shawn11/22/04 02:39 PM
.......*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  [Haze]11/23/04 02:44 AM
........*Re: Hacked xor's to run previously un-xored cps2 games?  Videoman11/25/04 07:16 AM
........*Well if any good has come from this, its got Kai's ass out of retirement -nt-  Johnick11/23/04 08:12 PM
.........*Most would disagree that it is a good thing. Heh... *nt*  BBQmyNUTZ11/24/04 05:30 PM