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Posted byBBQmyNUTZ
Posted on01/19/05 02:32 PM

> Ahh, this is fun.
> http://cps2shock.retrogames.com/ and http://haze.mame.net/
> Raz throws a hook
> 18/01/2005
> Updated CPS-2 Driver
> Below is a updated CPS2 driver that fixes inaccurate details in the driver
> as it stands in the u3 release. Most of the stuff in this driver was submitted
> days before the u3 release but rejected...? See the included changes.txt for
> changes against the u3 driver, there is also a note about incorrect values in
> the NeoGeo driver.
> Haze weaves
> Cps2 Rejection .. Cps2 update wasn't included quite simply because i'm sick of
> hearing about it. After about 7-8 submissions of one person claiming one thing
> based on their boards, and another person another based on theirs I stopped
> caring too much and put the driver on freeze until somebody has some actual
> useful contribution (such as decryption) instead of nitpicking over minor text
> details which it probably change between boards when there are far larger errors
> in the driver (the entire decryption method). I have better things to do with my
> time and am more inclined in this case to stick with internal submissions from
> MameDev members than external ones.
> The NeoGeo frequencies will however be changed, that was an oversight when
> adding the new bios
> Raz goes for an uppercut
> 18/01/2005
> To HAZE, about CPS2 driver.
> If you were to take time and read the included changes.txt and follow the
> advice of where the changes made can be confirmed you will see the changes in
> the driver (below) are accurate. The fact that you are willing to allow _known_
> incorrect information to remain in the driver just shows that you are not the
> best person to decide what goes in or stays out of MAME because you are letting
> your own personal opinions affect that accuracy on the MAME project as a whole.
> How many CPS2 games have you seen? I personally have seen well over 100 and
> while DEVs may not like that I will not provide tables to help break the
> encryption of CPS2 at this time (because there is a 2004 game on the system) I
> am sure all agree that I have never given inaccurate info when it comes to data
> I submit to the MAMEdev.
> Haze interrupts with a bodyblow
> Since Raz wants to play it this way... Raz- This is between you and Guru, NOT
> me, convince Guru, who has a pile of boards, that your changes are correct, not
> me, I listen to other members of the dev team, and if you're so fussy over
> 'known incorrect' information being in the driver I may as well rip the whole
> XOR thing out because its 100% inaccurate. As stated the reason I froze the
> driver is because I'm sick of hearing about the whole thing, and really quite
> inclined just to trash it as its the source of so much controversy, creating
> further arguments involving me does not help the issue.
> There is a fairly normal verification process for external submissions, Guru is
> in charge of verifying any changes made to board information in the source as
> the majority of this information was supplied by him. Many submissions of
> various types have failed to get past the verification stage, nobody gets any
> kind of special treatment in this regard.
> Looks like that's the end of round one. Can't wait to see Round 2.

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Subject  Posted byPosted On
*Raz vs Haze & Guru  RoushiMSX01/18/05 05:22 PM
.*A VERDADE - ILUSTRADA!!!  Dilmarx01/23/05 12:17 PM
..*English plz -mt- kthks  newsdee01/23/05 02:58 PM
...*Yeah, you got the whole jist of it...  Death Knight01/23/05 03:27 PM
....*like Jerry Springer?? huahaahhah -nt- :D  IkariWarrior01/23/05 04:15 PM
.....*Re: like Jerry Springer?? huahaahhah -nt- :D  Dilmarx01/23/05 06:15 PM
......*just a simple request  skydoune01/23/05 11:03 PM
....*what's that about the smoking cobra?  newsdee01/23/05 04:09 PM
.....*Re: what's that about the smoking cobra?  IkariWarrior01/23/05 04:17 PM
......*Re: what's that about the smoking cobra?  Death Knight01/23/05 04:51 PM
.......*Re: what's that about the smoking cobra?  IkariWarrior01/23/05 06:09 PM
.*It Has Began!!!  H20 POLO01/20/05 09:58 AM
.-Meaningless Turd Joust *nt*  BBQmyNUTZ01/19/05 02:32 PM
.*Re: Raz vs Haze & Guru  smf01/19/05 12:15 PM
..*Re: Raz vs Haze & Guru  [Haze]01/19/05 01:23 PM
...*8.3  Terry Bogard01/19/05 10:29 PM
....*The filenames inside the zip -nt-  Sune_S01/20/05 11:09 AM
...*You're Ever So Slightly Mistaken  RoushiMSX01/19/05 07:17 PM
.*Raz brings out the evidence  IceMan01/19/05 07:55 AM
..*Took it down....but saw fit to leave the "guru comes clean" post.NT  rocko72071ll01/19/05 06:57 PM
..*Took it down....but saw fit to leave the   rocko72071ll01/19/05 06:57 PM
..*another update on haze's website  skydoune01/19/05 12:39 PM
..*Incredigay (nt)  Smitdogg01/19/05 12:38 PM
..*Re: Raz brings out the evidence  finaldave01/19/05 08:04 AM
...*Hmm so what are the chances...  mikeyt01/19/05 11:33 AM
....*What are the chances of anybody giving a shit?  Death Knight01/19/05 11:38 AM
.....*Re: What are the chances of anybody giving a shit?  Prophet (RG)01/19/05 07:31 PM
......*Re: What are the chances of anybody giving a shit?  finaldave01/20/05 05:36 AM
.......*How many  Lilwolf01/20/05 08:42 AM
........*there is a MAME tv show  newsdee01/20/05 01:46 PM
........*Re: How many  finaldave01/20/05 11:31 AM
........*Re: How many  [Haze]01/20/05 11:26 AM
.........*Re: How many  Lilwolf01/20/05 01:24 PM
..........*Re: How many  [Haze]01/20/05 01:34 PM
...........*And what game is that? -nt-  Purple Rain01/20/05 11:40 PM
............*IIRC Hyper Street Fighter (nt)  smf01/21/05 02:34 AM
.............*The aniversary edition?  mikeyt01/21/05 04:37 AM
..............*It's also on PS2 and Xbox...  Nerox9101/23/05 00:33 AM
..............*Depends on your definition of new ;)  Buveed01/21/05 10:49 AM
........*is there any money to be made out of cps2 bootlegs?  Ibbo01/20/05 09:28 AM
......*Re: What are the chances of anybody giving a shit?  Sixtoe01/20/05 03:43 AM
.*All this over lame Crapcom games? *nt*  Bart T.01/18/05 07:38 PM
..*Neo Geo too I believe (nt)  IceMan01/18/05 07:39 PM
...*nope... just some text/filenames in the cps2 driver ......... [nt]  [Haze]01/19/05 02:19 AM
....*Re: nope... just some text/filenames in the cps2 driver ......... [nt]  smf01/19/05 12:06 PM
.....*Re: nope... just some text/filenames in the cps2 driver ......... [nt]  [Haze]01/19/05 01:28 PM
...*Ahh, now that makes it worth it -nt- pl0p  Buveed01/18/05 08:29 PM
.*Much Ado About Nothing  mangamuscle01/18/05 06:35 PM
..*Re: Much Ado About Nothing  finaldave01/19/05 06:05 AM
.*Re: C'est magnifique!  Jan_Klaassen01/18/05 06:32 PM
..*could be funnier  ChachiSqrPants01/18/05 06:35 PM
...*it's a great analogy, explanation within  newsdee01/18/05 08:43 PM
.*SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!!!  ChachiSqrPants01/18/05 06:21 PM
.*round 2 predictions  IceMan01/18/05 05:45 PM
..*Re: round 2 predictions  smf01/19/05 12:11 PM
..*Re: round 2 predictions  lux_9288601/18/05 10:32 PM