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SubjectIs Mame Overstepping their Authority Here? Reply to this message
Posted byGriking
Posted on06/04/05 12:38 PM



I just read this post over on the Arcade Controls forums and thought it was interesting and worth mentioning here.


In reply to:

I got a copy of a letter today that is being sent by Aaron Giles to vendors on eBay whose auctions got yanked today because of "trademark violations":

From: Aaron Giles [mailto:ebay@mamedev.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:25 AM
Cc: Nicola Salmoria
Subject: Re: VeRO NOTICE: eBay Listing(s) Removed - VeRO Program

We are in the process of auditing auctions that violate the MAME trademark.
We are concerned about a number of auctions which attempt to associate themselves with MAME without having any formal connection to the project.

Based on the abuses we have seen in the auctions on eBay and elsewhere, we are attempting to define rules surrounding the usage of the MAME trademark.

Below is what we currently have defined.

1. You cannot use the trademark "MAME" in the title of your auction.

2. You may use the phrases "compatible with MAME(tm)" or "works with MAME(tm)", but you may only mention it once in your ad.

3. You must not use the trademark "MAME" in the name of your product. This only implies official endorsement and we do not endorse products.

4. You must not use the MAME logo under any circumstances; this again implies official endorsement.

5. You cannot include MAME or a derivative thereof with what you are selling unless you obtain permission. At this time, we are still discussing under what circumstances, if any, MAME will be permitted to be included with commercial products. If you have already requested permission, your request will be answered once a decision has been made.

6. You must not include any unlicensed game software (ROMs or CHDs) or artwork with your product. Furthermore, you must not provide information to those who purchase your product concerning where to obtain unlicensed game software.

7. You must not mislead the buyer with pictures or lists of games that do not come included with your product. Any games or pictures you use must refer to properly-licensed games that are included with the purchased product.

Please note that the situation is evolving, and we will likely be modifying/expanding these rules based on future violations we discover. For more information on the license and trademark, please see http://mamedev.com.

Thank you for your cooperation,
The MAME Development Team



I think I know what the Mame team is trying to do here (protect their trademark) but does anyone else have a problem with some of these terms and think that they're overstepping their authority? I'm curious about #6 and #7 particulary. If I were to package roms or post a picture of a game shouldn't the original game developer and not the Mame team be the ones to have a beef with me?

Thoughts?



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.Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Griking06/04/05 12:38 PM
.*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  [Pi]06/04/05 05:12 PM
..*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Videoman06/18/05 05:45 PM
.*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Tourniquet06/04/05 01:31 PM
..*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Videoman06/18/05 07:25 PM
..*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Griking06/04/05 02:07 PM
...*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  smf06/05/05 00:28 AM
.*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  DukeFett06/04/05 12:59 PM
..*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Lando24206/04/05 02:39 PM
...*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Griking06/04/05 02:42 PM
....*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Lando24206/04/05 02:49 PM
.....*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Griking06/04/05 03:06 PM
......*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Lando24206/06/05 07:17 PM
.......*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Videoman06/18/05 07:50 PM
.......*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Fakester06/09/05 10:16 AM
......*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  [Haze]06/04/05 04:53 PM
.......*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Griking06/04/05 07:16 PM
........*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  smf06/05/05 00:22 AM
.........*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Videoman06/18/05 07:38 PM
.........*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Griking06/05/05 01:08 AM
..........*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  [Haze]06/05/05 06:27 AM
...........*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Qun Mang06/05/05 02:48 PM
............*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Tourniquet06/05/05 03:02 PM
.............*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  DukeFett06/05/05 11:35 PM
..............*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  smf06/07/05 03:09 AM
..............*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  galibert06/06/05 08:27 AM
...............*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  skydoune06/07/05 00:49 AM
................*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  smf06/07/05 03:04 AM
.................*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Fakester06/11/05 11:10 AM
..................*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  R. Belmont06/11/05 12:27 PM
...................*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  Videoman06/18/05 07:52 PM
.................*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  finaldave06/09/05 03:58 PM
.................*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  skydoune06/07/05 01:27 PM
..................*Re: Is Mame Overstepping their Authority Here?  eevert06/07/05 01:44 PM
...................*ah, touché -nt-  skydoune06/07/05 05:18 PM