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SubjectRe: to answer your other question-comments.... Reply to this message
Posted byslipstream
Posted on06/23/05 00:05 AM



> >No way. DC is vastly superior to Model 3. There's just no >comparison between
> DC/Naomi games and Model 3. PowerVR >was a much better piece of kit.
>
> I've inside knowledge of both systems, and you ask any Sega AM developer which
> was the more powerful hardware system, and they will say Model 3 Step 2/2.1, not
> Model 3 Step 1 or 1.5 though.
>
> The Naomi was considered a cheaper alternative and a cheap way for operators to
> buy later games (also the ability to port games in a short time span), as the
> Model 3 PCB was around £2000 for the CPU/Video boards.
>
> Even though Naomi was released in 98 with House of the Dead 2, it was still
> established that games like Star Wars Trilogy would look and perform better on
> Model 3, also there was some serious hardware 3D issues on the Naomi so they
> decided to make the Hikaru board, which was vastly more powerful than Naomi, and
> probably the Naomi 2, this was considered the replacement for Model 3, although
> too costly compared to Naomi, however Sega did venture into mutliple threaded
> Naomi hardware, such as F355 and Airline pilots, these where for showcase games
> and these games clearly are more powerful than Model 3.
>
> The sad thing is that you say Naomi was more powerful than Model 3, then why did
> Sega not port the following games:
>
> Daytona 2 BOTE or PE
> Scud Race/Super GT
> Emergency Call Ambulance
> Spikeout/Spikeout FE
> Dirt Devils
> LA Machine Guns
>
> Infact most of them didn't get ported, and if you played/seen the XBOX Outrun 2
> levels of Scud/Daytona 2 you'll know they look nothing as good as the Arcade
> version.
>
> So on paper, who cares.. I know that Model 3 rocked!
>

I agree almost 100%

Model 3 was absolutely staggaringly impressive in the mid 1990s, and still impressive in the late 1990s. even though NAOMI was better in certain specific areas of the 3D hardware compared to Model 3, the Model 3 was better in other areas.

If Sega and Lockheed had brought out Model 4 with say, 10 million polygon performance on paper, it would have blown the living fuck out of PS2/System246, NAOMI 2, Gamecube/TriForce and Xbox/Chihiro, dispite the fact that these systems do 10-20 million polygons/sec.

lets put it another way. if all the current-gen consoles (Xbox, Gamecube, PS2, Dreamcast) were scaled down to 1M polygons/sec, keeping all of their inherent traits
(good and bad), they would not hold a candle to Model 3.

The only reason why the current consoles are able to compete with Model 3 and in many areas, beat Model 3 badly, is because the polygon and pixel performance is so much higher. but the quality is actually lower, in many respects.




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*Did Model2 have monochromatic textures?  finaldave06/17/05 07:43 PM
.*Re: Did Model2 have monochromatic textures?  ElSemi06/22/05 12:46 PM
.*Re: Did Model2 have monochromatic textures?  Model3Man06/22/05 11:03 AM
.*to answer your other question-comments....  slipstream06/20/05 01:11 AM
..*Re: to answer your other question-comments....  Bart T.06/21/05 01:12 AM
...*Re: to answer your other question-comments....  slipstream06/22/05 00:51 AM
....*Re: to answer your other question-comments....  Bart T.06/22/05 11:54 AM
.....*Re: to answer your other question-comments....  galibert06/24/05 12:12 PM
...*Re: to answer your other question-comments....  Videoman06/21/05 07:44 PM
....*Re: to answer your other question-comments....  slipstream06/22/05 00:57 AM
....*Re: to answer your other question-comments....  Bart T.06/21/05 10:59 PM
.....*Re: to answer your other question-comments....  slipstream06/22/05 03:44 PM
.....*Re: to answer your other question-comments....  Model3Man06/22/05 10:59 AM
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......*Re: to answer your other question-comments....  Bart T.06/22/05 12:17 PM
.......*Re: to answer your other question-comments....  smf06/26/05 06:40 AM
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.*Re: Did Model2 have monochromatic textures?  Mitaine06/18/05 07:21 AM
.*Re: Did Model2 have monochromatic textures?  Sixtoe06/17/05 11:33 PM
..*Re: Did Model2 have monochromatic textures?  R. Belmont06/18/05 09:17 PM
...*Re: Did Model2 have monochromatic textures?  slipstream06/20/05 01:34 AM
.*Re: Did Model2 have monochromatic textures?  lux_9288606/17/05 09:51 PM
..*Re: Did Model2 have monochromatic textures?  slipstream06/20/05 01:41 AM