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SubjectSystem 16 Updated Reply to this message
Posted bySixtoe
Posted on07/26/05 02:07 PM



I've updated System16,

Check it out for your arcade hardware lovin'

Cheers,

Six...

System16 - The Arcade Museum


SubjectRe: System 16 Updated new Reply to this message
Posted byelgondolero
Posted on07/26/05 07:47 PM



nice. will check the whole thing out at work tomorrow lol


surprising number of cool looking games for the atomiswave system...

pity only the shitty copy&paste kof games get home ports, tho







...:::elgondolero:::...


SubjectQuestion? new Reply to this message
Posted byTechrat 2004
Posted on07/26/05 10:54 PM



"There’s a lot going on with the hardware side of the arcade industry at the moment, first of all there’s a lot of hardware being retired and replaced this year, Sega's Naomi 1 and 2, Taito's G-Net, Namco's System246, NeoGeo and possibly the Atomiswave are all seeing their last games (although a couple of releases might trickle into next year)."

So there aren't going to be any more Naomi1/2 games or Atomisware? Is the "next" version of hardware affordable? I thought Playmore was going to Atomisware? So will they be using the "Naomi3" boards or just no longer doing games?

No KOF 11? MSLUG 5? etc?

I read the info off your site, but I guess I didn't understand it...I'm a big Naomi fan, and I hate to see the hardware "retired."




SubjectRe: Question? new Reply to this message
Posted bySixtoe
Posted on07/26/05 11:33 PM



> So there aren't going to be any more Naomi1/2 games or Atomisware? Is the "next"
> version of hardware affordable? I thought Playmore was going to Atomisware? So
> will they be using the "Naomi3" boards or just no longer doing games?

The "Naomi 3" is the Lindburgh, Sega's new high end hardware. This will take over duties from the Chihiro and Naomi 2.
It is at least on par with the next gen consoles.

The Aurora is replacing the Naomi, Atomiswave and just about every other budget system. It is the low end hardware and it will be very cheap and easy to both develop for and purchase, its also about 4 times as powerful as both the naomi and atomiswave.

All developement will shift over to these systems from teams using the older hardware, and it is expected that it will attrack most of the other 3rd party ones as well, although this is speculation on my part,

Cheers,

Six...

System16 - The Arcade Museum


SubjectRe: Question? new Reply to this message
Posted byslipstream
Posted on07/27/05 07:00 PM



> > So there aren't going to be any more Naomi1/2 games or Atomisware? Is the
> "next"
> > version of hardware affordable? I thought Playmore was going to Atomisware? So
> > will they be using the "Naomi3" boards or just no longer doing games?
>
> The "Naomi 3" is the Lindburgh, Sega's new high end hardware. This will take
> over duties from the Chihiro and Naomi 2.
> It is at least on par with the next gen consoles.
>
> The Aurora is replacing the Naomi, Atomiswave and just about every other budget
> system. It is the low end hardware and it will be very cheap and easy to both
> develop for and purchase, its also about 4 times as powerful as both the naomi
> and atomiswave.
>
> All developement will shift over to these systems from teams using the older
> hardware, and it is expected that it will attrack most of the other 3rd party
> ones as well, although this is speculation on my part,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Six...
>
> System16 - The Arcade Museum
>


Sixtoe, what you posted could very well be what will happen, however from my understanding there is going to be three new Sega arcade boards

Lindbergh - uses the first version of PowerVR Series 5 GPU which was completed in 2004. Lingbergh will replace NAOMI2 - it will probably be at best, as powerful as Xbox 360, but not as powerful as PS3. although, going by HOTD4, the Lindbergh board may be somewhat less powerful than Xbox 360.

System SP - will use the new version of PowerVR Series 5 slated for 2006 which is called PowerVR Eurasia. the SystemSP board will be Sega's most powerful board for the foreseeable future, and should be more powerful than the nextgen consoles.

(Lindbergh and System SP are not the same)

Aurora: new lowend board to replace NAOMI, Atomiswave and all other budget boards (as you said). but is not as powerful as NAOMI 2.

NAOMI 2: 10 to 12 million polygons/sec - 200M pixels/sec fillrate
Aurora: about 7 million polygons/sec - 150M pixels/sec fillrate
Dreamcast / NAOMI / Atomiswave: 3-4 million polygons/sec - 100M pixels/sec fillrate




SubjectRe: Question? new Reply to this message
Posted bySixtoe
Posted on07/28/05 03:06 AM



> (Lindbergh and System SP are not the same)

I've heard exactly the opposite, until something gets officially announced or I get information to the contrary (from a reliable source) I wont be beleiving it...

> > Aurora: new lowend board to replace NAOMI, Atomiswave and all other budget
> boards (as you said). but is not as powerful as NAOMI 2.

Erm, thats exactly what I said, and I quote;

"the Lindbergh, their high end Naomi2/Chihiro’s replacement, the Aurora, the low end Naomi/Atomiswave’s replacement"

Six...

System16 - The Arcade Museum


SubjectRe: Question? new Reply to this message
Posted byLando242
Posted on07/28/05 08:56 AM



> powerful as Xbox 360, but not as powerful as PS3.

From what I've heard they are both about on par when it comes to power, and there only about 2.5x the power of the original Xbox (well behind Moores' Law if you compare to current PCs).

I found this article to be the most in-depth: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453

Lando242




SubjectRe: Question? new Reply to this message
Posted byslipstream
Posted on07/28/05 03:23 PM



> > powerful as Xbox 360, but not as powerful as PS3.
>
> From what I've heard they are both about on par when it comes to power, and
> there only about 2.5x the power of the original Xbox (well behind Moores' Law if
> you compare to current PCs).
>
> I found this article to be the most in-depth:
> http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453
>
> Lando242
>

that anandtech article is utter nonsense. PS3 and Xbox360 are indeed going to be roughly on the same level, with each console having advantages over the other, in specific areas. but to say that PS3 and 360 are only 2.5 times more powerful than Xbox1 is just not true.





SubjectRe: Question? new Reply to this message
Posted byslipstream
Posted on07/28/05 03:24 PM



> > (Lindbergh and System SP are not the same)
>
> I've heard exactly the opposite, until something gets officially announced or I
> get information to the contrary (from a reliable source) I wont be beleiving
> it...
>
> > > Aurora: new lowend board to replace NAOMI, Atomiswave and all other budget
> > boards (as you said). but is not as powerful as NAOMI 2.
>
> Erm, thats exactly what I said, and I quote;
>
> "the Lindbergh, their high end Naomi2/Chihiro’s replacement, the Aurora, the low
> end Naomi/Atomiswave’s replacement"
>
> Six...
>
I know you said that. but you also said that Aurora is 4 times more powerful than NAOMI and Atomiswave which is not true. Aurora is about 1.5 times as powerful (or 50% more) than NAOMI and Atomiswave.

the older NAOMI2 is about 3 to 4 times as powerful as NAOMI and Atomiswave :) thanks to its parallal processing which the new Aurora board will not have (single GPU)





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