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SubjectMame 0.99 Question new Reply to this message
Posted byGriking
Posted on08/08/05 10:03 AM



I'm not a math whiz by any means but wouldn't version 1.0 come out right after v.99 instead of version .100?

I always though that the more numbers to the right side of the decimal the smaller the number was.




SubjectRe: Mame 0.99 Question new Reply to this message
Posted byclem
Posted on08/08/05 10:18 AM



but of course a change to a full number (especially from 0 to 1) implies a big milestone, or a change from beta to release software

my guess would be the next version is called 0.9A
:-)

clem

> I'm not a math whiz by any means but wouldn't version 1.0 come out right after
> v.99 instead of version .100?
>
> I always though that the more numbers to the right side of the decimal the
> smaller the number was.
>
>



SubjectRe: Mame 0.99 Question Reply to this message
Posted byQun Mang
Posted on08/08/05 11:45 AM



mame.net discussion #1

mame.net discussion #2




SubjectRe: Mame 0.99 Question new Reply to this message
Posted bymamegodx
Posted on08/08/05 07:30 PM



Think of it this way:

.98 < .99 > .100 < .101 <----------real life mathematics
.98 < .99 < .100 < .101 <----------MAME


However, i just wish they would drop the decimal point.

version 99, version 100, version 101.... then the kiddies would never see a 1.0, muhahaha :)


> I'm not a math whiz by any means but wouldn't version 1.0 come out right after
> v.99 instead of version .100?
>
> I always though that the more numbers to the right side of the decimal the
> smaller the number was.
>
>





Subjectmame redefines the basics of maths! new Reply to this message
Posted byskydoune
Posted on08/09/05 01:19 AM



that emu never ceases to amazes me!

seriously, I don't know what's the big deal about not going for 1.00 then 1.01, etc, everyone knows 1.0 wouldn't be a final release with no more updates, it's just a number... I'd rather see them redefine the basics of version numbering, 1.0 ain't a first stable release. but hey if it keeps media attention and kids that can't wait for a 1.0 to come out, well hum, I guess it's a good idea then....

blame the rhum i drank tonight




SubjectRe: Mame 0.99 Question new Reply to this message
Posted bymosquito2001
Posted on08/09/05 06:34 AM



Just forget the damn leading "0.", next release will be the hundredth, no big deal.
On the other side if they name it 1.0, random people will think that all bugs have been solved and every game is playable full speed. Just think at all pseudo-scientific (read for nerds) websites or magazines that will make a news report about it and at the raise of newbie's questions on the mame board ;)




SubjectRe: Mame 0.99 Question new Reply to this message
Posted byGriking
Posted on08/09/05 08:47 AM



> Just forget the damn leading "0.", next release will be the hundredth, no big
> deal.
> On the other side if they name it 1.0, random people will think that all bugs
> have been solved and every game is playable full speed. Just think at all
> pseudo-scientific (read for nerds) websites or magazines that will make a news
> report about it and at the raise of newbie's questions on the mame board ;)

I never realized that there was such a fuss about the numbering system until I read those links posted below. I only asked because I thought the numbering was wrong which it appears to be. Looks like someone refuses to use normal numbering system because they want to be stubborn.





SubjectHow'd I know this math crap would come up new Reply to this message
Posted byMetalFox
Posted on08/09/05 09:00 AM



I was getting the same crap for Laser when I went from version 0.9 to version 0.10.

It's system for determining releases of programs, not math.

And most importantly, who cares.


SubjectRe: How'd I know this math crap would come up new Reply to this message
Posted byMitaine
Posted on08/09/05 09:21 AM



Agreed; I would just like to add that in some countries the period isn't the decimal separator (in France we write 3,14 for pi); likewise in software development it's mostly used to separate major/minor/etc releases. So all the whining is baseless; the period is a generic separator, and math doesn't end with decimal numbers so please avoid playing smartass.






Subjectas I posted on the Mame.net boards new Reply to this message
Posted byPr3tty F1y
Posted on08/09/05 11:42 AM



stolen from wikipedia:

The most common software versioning scheme is a scheme in which different major releases of the software each receive a unique numerical identifier. This is typically expressed as three numbers, separated by periods, such as version 2.4.13. One very commonly followed structure for these numbers is:

major.minor[.revision[.build]]


Mame is still in a minor build cycle :-P

That is the way it is, deal with it.

_ _ - - = = Pr3tty F1y = = - - _ _


SubjectSo the point is ... new Reply to this message
Posted byMarv
Posted on08/09/05 11:54 AM



> stolen from wikipedia:
>
> The most common software versioning scheme is a scheme in which different major
> releases of the software each receive a unique numerical identifier. This is
> typically expressed as three numbers, separated by periods, such as version
> 2.4.13. One very commonly followed structure for these numbers is:
>
> major.minor[.revision[.build]]

... that the periods indicate a separator, rather than a decimal point. It just so happens that Mame is only using one separator.
(That makes it easier to deal with in my mind anyway)


>
> Mame is still in a minor build cycle :-P
>
> That is the way it is, deal with it.

(That's the way it is, period ;o)

> _ _ - - = = Pr3tty F1y = = - - _ _
>







Subjectwell new Reply to this message
Posted byPr3tty F1y
Posted on08/09/05 12:18 PM




Major Minor Revision Build
0 . 98 u 4


Now, I know i'm taking liberties with it, but look at the numbering system for Pegasys' TMPGEnc, its follows the x.x.x.x numbering system to a T.

But in the end, its whatever the devs decide is the way it works. My favorite always was the numerical date year.month.day so today's version would be Mame v.2005.08.09 but hey, its only a numbering system, what we really should be focused on is helping the devs by 1.) not bitching for new additions when great strides have just been made, 2.) donating to get pcbs/dumping equipment, and 3.) contributing to mametesters.org to help give them an idea of the current issues.

_ _ - - = = Pr3tty F1y = = - - _ _


Subjectu just stands for "update" new Reply to this message
Posted byQun Mang
Posted on08/09/05 08:08 PM



>
> Major Minor Revision Build
> 0 . 98 u 4
>
>
> Now, I know i'm taking liberties with it, but look at the numbering system for
> Pegasys' TMPGEnc, its follows the x.x.x.x numbering system to a T.
>


But other than that I can go with your logic.




SubjectGET A LIFE YOU BUNCH OF GEEKS! new Reply to this message
Posted bynight_waxon
Posted on08/12/05 02:21 PM



Blimey, what a bunch of geeks.




SubjectI <3 you too -nt- new Reply to this message
Posted byskydoune
Posted on08/13/05 12:17 PM



> Blimey, what a bunch of geeks.
>





SubjectRe: Mame 0.99 Question new Reply to this message
Posted byihatemyself
Posted on08/13/05 07:43 PM



i think mame should now move to symbols. like how in super mario bros if you get too many lives it starts showing little bricks and clouds.

the next mame is version apple! AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!


SubjectRe: Mame 0.99 Question new Reply to this message
Posted byHobbesAtPlay
Posted on08/14/05 01:08 AM



> I'm not a math whiz by any means but wouldn't version 1.0 come out right after
> v.99 instead of version .100?
>
> I always though that the more numbers to the right side of the decimal the
> smaller the number was.


You should've argued this point when MAME went from 0.9 to 0.10.

You missed your chance... too bad.

=)

H@P

( and why is 0.100 such a big deal when no one complained about 0.19 to 0.20, 0.29 to 0.30, 0.59 to 0.60, 0.69 to 0.70, 0.79 to 0.80 and 0.89 to 0.90? )


SubjectRe: mame redefines the basics of maths! new Reply to this message
Posted bysmf
Posted on08/19/05 03:09 AM



> everyone knows 1.0 wouldn't be a final release with no more updates, it's
> just a number...

I was talking to someone the other day and he wanted to know why we couldn't release v1.0. He's fed up with downloading all the roms and he just wants a v1.0 so that he can give up and wait for v2.0.

MAME didn't invent the version numbering system it uses. So we aren't redefining maths.

For the people that realise it's just a way of tagging the releases then the current version works well. For others then there is no hope anyway, so why bother changing.

smf





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