Just wondering
What is the difference between
Capcom Vs SNK plus and
Capcom VS SNK Chaos

what emulator plays it anyway I can't seem to find out

I have it for DreamCast but would rather play the neogeo version on my PC with an emulator. as I want to keep my DC copy mint.

> Just wondering
> What is the difference between
> Capcom Vs SNK plus and
> Capcom VS SNK Chaos
>
> what emulator plays it anyway I can't seem to find out
>
> I have it for DreamCast but would rather play the neogeo version on my PC with
> an emulator. as I want to keep my DC copy mint.
>

You're confusing "Capcom vs SNK" with "SNK vs Capcom". There is no Dreamcast version of SVC Chaos.

SVC Chaos: http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=S&game_id=11366

It's been awhile, but if I remember right, the plus version is a bootleg version with the secret characters selectable in the fighter select menu.

SVC Chaos is playable in MAME (as of 103u2). I believe there are some unofficial builds of MAME and winkawaks that support the plus version; the plus version is also playable in Nebula (the versions of Nebula where the game is not locked out), but you would need to have the dat file set up as well.

> as I want to keep my DC copy mint.

One other thing.

If you want to run the Dreamcast versions of Capcom vs SNK 1, Capcom vs SNK Pro, or Capcom vs SNK 2 on your PC, then you would need to use Chankast, a Dreamcast emulator:

http://www.chanka.org/

>
> > as I want to keep my DC copy mint.
>
> One other thing.
>
> If you want to run the Dreamcast versions of Capcom vs SNK 1, Capcom vs SNK Pro,
> or Capcom vs SNK 2 on your PC, then you would need to use Chankast, a Dreamcast
> emulator:
>
> http://www.chanka.org/
>
It's not as good as the Dreamcast version, and I'm unsure what emulators support the Playstation disk, but it's not that bad and I've played worse...and yes, FWIW, I had the Playstation CD, but I gave it to my girlfriend...I've gotten another Dreamcast copy anyways, so I'm happy...of course she has the Dreamcast version as well too... :)

WOW "SNK vs Capcom"(neo geo) is a BIG different from "Capcom vs SNK"

I got SNK vs Capcom Plus working in WinKawaks. didn't know it was such a different style game from the DreamCast version.

SVC only utilize 4 buttons even for the Capcom characters... I don't like it as some of the character is inconsistant with the "Hard kick" button character like Ken would do a SF style medium kick while Guile do a high kick...

I think they F**ked up the Capcom characters. or maybe it's my rom / emulator. when I choose Ryu I can't get him to do a dragon punch (while I can do it with ease using RYO and KEN). and when I pick guile the Sonic Kick is WAY harder to pull off. (something with the timing?) but the sonic boom is easy to pull off like normal.

WTF with SVC u have to press two buttons together to do a throw.. . that combined with 4 buttons only make a SFII breed player feel VERY WIERD. I was getting my butt kicked by the SNK characters when I play with Capcom chacters..
Tho playing SNK characters feels the same as usual...

damn it. it seems like they screwed the playability of the Capcom charcters and it's a learning/adjustment to play. I don't like it.

the DreamCast Capcom vs SNK just feel natural with SNK and Capcom characters.

Only thing is I like the art style of SvC better than CvS because it's more "dark" and less cartoony

anyone care to comment on my comparison?

> WOW "SNK vs Capcom"(neo geo) is a BIG different from "Capcom vs SNK"
>
> I got SNK vs Capcom Plus working in WinKawaks. didn't know it was such a
> different style game from the DreamCast version.
>
> SVC only utilize 4 buttons even for the Capcom characters... I don't like it as
> some of the character is inconsistant with the "Hard kick" button character like
> Ken would do a SF style medium kick while Guile do a high kick...
>
> I think they F**ked up the Capcom characters. or maybe it's my rom / emulator.
> when I choose Ryu I can't get him to do a dragon punch (while I can do it with
> ease using RYO and KEN). and when I pick guile the Sonic Kick is WAY harder to
> pull off. (something with the timing?) but the sonic boom is easy to pull off
> like normal.
>
> WTF with SVC u have to press two buttons together to do a throw.. . that
> combined with 4 buttons only make a SFII breed player feel VERY WIERD. I was
> getting my butt kicked by the SNK characters when I play with Capcom chacters..
> Tho playing SNK characters feels the same as usual...
>
> damn it. it seems like they screwed the playability of the Capcom charcters and
> it's a learning/adjustment to play. I don't like it.
>
> the DreamCast Capcom vs SNK just feel natural with SNK and Capcom characters.
>
> Only thing is I like the art style of SvC better than CvS because it's more
> "dark" and less cartoony
>
> anyone care to comment on my comparison?
>

I don't like the "point" system in Capcom vs SNK, but at least in the sequel it's there for gamers who like it, but you can just pick 3 characters if you don't like it.

SVC: Chaos, also is one on one and I prefer the tag matches, one on one fighting can get boring after a while, but with tag matches you can try different teams and have to be proficient with more than one character.

I still own console ports of all 3, CVS for the Dreamcast, CVS 2 for the Game Cube, SVC: Chaos for the XBOX...

I just read some reviews of SVC and they gave it bad rating.. and say even 2D fighting fans say it kinda suck.

that was my impression of the game too it kinda suck.

> I just read some reviews of SVC and they gave it bad rating.. and say even 2D
> fighting fans say it kinda suck.
>
> that was my impression of the game too it kinda suck.
>

I personally love the game. Chun-Li, and Hugo are my favorite characters. If you are used to the SF style of fighting, and not the KOF style, it will take a bit of time to get used to. After that, you'll probably see that it's a much deeper game than the Capcom version.

It's not really "adjusting" to the KOF style from SFII style.

it's the control and timing

For some reason it's SO MUCH HARDER to do some moves
ex. a dragon punch with Ryu it's like so hard to pull off, yet with Ken it's easy like normal. (Ken controls almost exactally like Ryu so why is it so hard to do a dragon punch with ryu)

ex#2. it's SO hard to do a sonic kick with guile.
there might be other problem with other characters but i didn't tried 3 SF characters.

in EVERy OTHER SF related game I have no problem doing the moves on those two characters

the thing with Guile is that I use all 6 buttons with him. now that I only got 4 buttons it's a big change and loss of techniques.

maybe the "Plus" version is hacked that's why I get the timing problem. or maybe SNK released another revision that clear bugs.

can anyone confirm these issues I'm talking about? if those are actual code and not some bug because of the "plus" hack than SVC really do suck b@lls.

Go to Shoryuken.com or Neo-Geo.com and they will both tell you the game isnt tournament worthy, only difference is the guys at SRK will laugh at you as well.

If you want deep 2d fighters, look no further then.

Street Fighter 3-3rd Strike
Guilty Gear XX/XX Reload/XX Slash (Slash being the most balanced, but arcade only for now).
Garou-MOTW
SFA3
Kof2002
Kof98
Kof Neowave (even though its boring)
Capcom vs SNK 2
Neo-Geo Battle Coliseum
Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo

And to a lesser degree

Last Blade 2
Marvel vs Capcom 2
Real Bout 2

3D Fighters

Virtua Fighter 4 - Evolution/Final Tuned (Final Tuned is arcade only for now)
Tekken 5 (dunno about the new version)
Tekken Tag Tournament (Ps2/system 246 version)

and to a lesser degree

Soul Calibur 2
Tobal no 2 (EXTREMELY underrated game)




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I've played the coin-op version but only as Akuma and Ken. Based on that, I agree the controls and feel is slower compared to the Capcom VS/ Street Fighter series but I was still able to perform all the special moves with no problem (including Akuma's super death move). It's definitely not the fast paced combofest of the Capcom series though and does feel more like an SNK/NeoGeo game graphically and controlwise. To me it felt like the Capcom based characters were missing something. It's like if you play as Ken, you expect a certain familiar SF feel to the controls, but instead you get some KOF-ized version with choppier controls. Then again, my favorite fighting games are actually the original 6-button layout, old school pure SF games.


> can anyone confirm these issues I'm talking about? if those are actual code and
> not some bug because of the "plus" hack than SVC really do suck b@lls.
>

> Go to Shoryuken.com or Neo-Geo.com and they will both tell you the game isnt
> tournament worthy, only difference is the guys at SRK will laugh at you as well.
>
> If you want deep 2d fighters, look no further then.
>
> Street Fighter 3-3rd Strike
> Guilty Gear XX/XX Reload/XX Slash (Slash being the most balanced, but arcade
> only for now).
> Garou-MOTW
> SFA3
> Kof2002
> Kof98
> Kof Neowave (even though its boring)
> Capcom vs SNK 2
> Neo-Geo Battle Coliseum
> Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo
>
> And to a lesser degree
>
> Last Blade 2
> Marvel vs Capcom 2
> Real Bout 2
>
> 3D Fighters
>
> Virtua Fighter 4 - Evolution/Final Tuned (Final Tuned is arcade only for now)
> Tekken 5 (dunno about the new version)
> Tekken Tag Tournament (Ps2/system 246 version)
>
> and to a lesser degree
>
> Soul Calibur 2
> Tobal no 2 (EXTREMELY underrated game)
>
>
>
>
> http://www.emuchrist.org
>

I prefer 99,98,2003, for 2003 I like being able to tag out characters so if you chose a bad setup you aren't screwed...

And Soul Calibur 2 better than its predeccessor? I thought you could button mash too much in Soul Calibur 2 compared to Soul Calibur.

I also think Dead or Alive 2 isn't too bad.

And Tekken 5? What's great about that game? I haven't cared for Tekken since Tekken 3/Tag even though I have Tekken 4 for the PS2.

Ken controls fine in SVC. I tried him. but I was talking specifically about RYu and Guile. you will notice it right away.

and I totally agree with you about the SF character controls feeling like "Kof"

I think SNK did that on purpose to FK up the capcom characters...and to make their KOF characters look good by wining all the time...

I just got and played Capcom Vs SNK 2 on my dreamcast. and the 6 button layout is much better. even the KOF chars feels natural with 6 buttons. and the controls of the KOF and SF feels like they should.

Even with Cap vs SNK both the characters controls feels natural.

SvC just sucks.

> I think SNK did that on purpose to FK up the capcom characters...and to make
> their KOF characters look good by wining all the time...

the funny thing is, the SNK people said that to CvS1 (not as much in CvS2) when it 1st came out, only in the opposite way obviously.

> I prefer 99,98,2003, for 2003 I like being able to tag out characters so if you
> chose a bad setup you aren't screwed...

99 Evo is my fave KOF, but that doesnt make it the most balanced or deep, its been proven that 98 and 2002 are. That guy in kof2003 with the twisted leg (Woolong ?) on the new team is so broken that he was banned from the first few tournies, and if you have to resort to banning characters you can forget about having the game in a major tournie.

> And Soul Calibur 2 better than its predeccessor? I thought you could button mash
> too much in Soul Calibur 2 compared to Soul Calibur.

There both button mashers, and SC1 has some strong points over SC2 and vice versa, its just the arcade version of SC1 is nothing like the DC port. And as fun as the DC port is, characters like Maxi are very over powered, where as in SC2 whilst characters like Mitsurugi is top tier the gap between him and other characters isnt that huge.

> I also think Dead or Alive 2 isn't too bad.

Its prolly the best in the series, but whilst the whole series is fun none of them are considered good enough for major tournies (though there have been some DOA only tournies, there nothing major).

> And Tekken 5? What's great about that game? I haven't cared for Tekken since
> Tekken 3/Tag even though I have Tekken 4 for the PS2.

5 is considered the best Tekken yet, closly followed by Tag. 4 is considered the worst due to Jin being god tier.

Every game has Tiers (as in if 2 players of equal skill play the game enough you notice certain characters will come out on top more then others), but games like 3rd strike and VF4 are different. VF4 Evo/FT the difference between the characters is tiny, though for what its worth Akira and Shun are up at the top and Lion is considered the worst character in the game, however the worlds best VF player uses Lion so nuff said. 3rd Strike has its tiers, I play the game a lot so the list is as follows

1.)Yun (SA3)
2.)Ken (SA3)
3.)Chun Li (SA2)
4.)Urien (SA3)
5.)Makoto (SA2)
6.)Dudley (SA3/SA1)
7.)Oro (SA3/SA2)
8.)Ryu (SA1)
9.)Akuma (SA1)
10.)Yang (SA2)
11.)Elena (SA2)
12.)Necro (SA3)
13.)Alex (SA2,SA3 against Hugo)
14.)Ibuki (SA1)
15.)Remy (SA1/SA2)
16.)Hugo (SA1)
17.)Q (SA1/SA2)
18.)Twelve (SA1/SA2)
19.)Sean (SA1/SA2)

Watch any tournie vids, and its almost all Yun Chun and Ken with the odd Urien or Dudley thrown in. There are exceptions though, there's a Japanese player called Yamazaki who uses Twelve and finished 4th in the last major tournie, which is amazing seeing as Twelve is the 2nd worst character in the game. What makes 3rd strike so balanced is the Parrying system. If you can parry, you allways have a chance.



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CvS 2 feels very good and balanced tho. it's good. too bad I can't play it on my PC

You need a cpu that supports SSE (Athlon XP 1400/1.4 ghz P4 or higher) with a gfx card that supports hardware t&l (Geforce 2 or higher, or equivalent Radeon which I think is the 7000) and either Win XP/2003 or 2000 (2000 is buggy though) and 256mb ram.

Id reccomend at least 2.4ghz, a geforce 3 or Radeon 8500, and 512mb ram.



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> You need a cpu that supports SSE (Athlon XP 1400/1.4 ghz P4 or higher) with a
> gfx card that supports hardware t&l (Geforce 2 or higher, or equivalent Radeon
> which I think is the 7000) and either Win XP/2003 or 2000 (2000 is buggy though)
> and 256mb ram.
>
> Id reccomend at least 2.4ghz, a geforce 3 or Radeon 8500, and 512mb ram.
>
>
>
> http://www.emuchrist.org
>

That's funny, I mentioned Chankast here, I suppose he didn't read it or check out the link. (then again, maybe he did read it and he realized he doesn't have the PC requirements. BTW - even with your recommended specs, it should be noted that the emulation will have slow downs, but it's still nice to see the game running at all on a PC)

http://www.retrogames.com/cgi-bin/wwwthreads/showpost.pl?Board=retrogen&Number=83172&page=0&view=expanded&mode=threaded&sb=7#Post83172

> > I prefer 99,98,2003, for 2003 I like being able to tag out characters so if
> you
> > chose a bad setup you aren't screwed...
>
> 99 Evo is my fave KOF, but that doesnt make it the most balanced or deep, its
> been proven that 98 and 2002 are. That guy in kof2003 with the twisted leg
> (Woolong ?) on the new team is so broken that he was banned from the first few
> tournies, and if you have to resort to banning characters you can forget about
> having the game in a major tournie.
>
Well its possible the King of Fighters games I like aren't balanced. I don't choose many characters. I sticky with Mai, Yuri, Robert, Mary, King, Andy, Terry, and Ryo, depending on the mood and version.

> > And Soul Calibur 2 better than its predeccessor? I thought you could button
> mash
> > too much in Soul Calibur 2 compared to Soul Calibur.
>
> There both button mashers, and SC1 has some strong points over SC2 and vice
> versa, its just the arcade version of SC1 is nothing like the DC port. And as
> fun as the DC port is, characters like Maxi are very over powered, where as in
> SC2 whilst characters like Mitsurugi is top tier the gap between him and other
> characters isnt that huge.
>
> > I also think Dead or Alive 2 isn't too bad.
>
> Its prolly the best in the series, but whilst the whole series is fun none of
> them are considered good enough for major tournies (though there have been some
> DOA only tournies, there nothing major).
>
> > And Tekken 5? What's great about that game? I haven't cared for Tekken since
> > Tekken 3/Tag even though I have Tekken 4 for the PS2.
>
> 5 is considered the best Tekken yet, closly followed by Tag. 4 is considered the
> worst due to Jin being god tier.
>
But that doesn't explaun why people love Tekken 5. I'm curious as I've played in on the PS2 and was far from wow'ed...

> Every game has Tiers (as in if 2 players of equal skill play the game enough you
> notice certain characters will come out on top more then others), but games like
> 3rd strike and VF4 are different. VF4 Evo/FT the difference between the
> characters is tiny, though for what its worth Akira and Shun are up at the top
> and Lion is considered the worst character in the game, however the worlds best
> VF player uses Lion so nuff said. 3rd Strike has its tiers, I play the game a
> lot so the list is as follows
>
> 1.)Yun (SA3)
> 2.)Ken (SA3)
> 3.)Chun Li (SA2)
> 4.)Urien (SA3)
> 5.)Makoto (SA2)
> 6.)Dudley (SA3/SA1)
> 7.)Oro (SA3/SA2)
> 8.)Ryu (SA1)
> 9.)Akuma (SA1)
> 10.)Yang (SA2)
> 11.)Elena (SA2)
> 12.)Necro (SA3)
> 13.)Alex (SA2,SA3 against Hugo)
> 14.)Ibuki (SA1)
> 15.)Remy (SA1/SA2)
> 16.)Hugo (SA1)
> 17.)Q (SA1/SA2)
> 18.)Twelve (SA1/SA2)
> 19.)Sean (SA1/SA2)
>
> Watch any tournie vids, and its almost all Yun Chun and Ken with the odd Urien
> or Dudley thrown in. There are exceptions though, there's a Japanese player
> called Yamazaki who uses Twelve and finished 4th in the last major tournie,
> which is amazing seeing as Twelve is the 2nd worst character in the game. What
> makes 3rd strike so balanced is the Parrying system. If you can parry, you
> allways have a chance.
>
>
>
> http://www.emuchrist.org
>

> But that doesn't explaun why people love Tekken 5. I'm curious as I've played in
> on the PS2 and was far from wow'ed...

You dont like 5, great. I dont like Gran Turismo 4, we are both in the minority. Its a matter of personal taste. 5 and Tag are considered the most balanced.
> > Every game has Tiers (as in if 2 players of equal skill play the game enough
> you
> > notice certain characters will come out on top more then others), but games
> like
> > 3rd strike and VF4 are different. VF4 Evo/FT the difference between the
> > characters is tiny, though for what its worth Akira and Shun are up at the top
> > and Lion is considered the worst character in the game, however the worlds
> best
> > VF player uses Lion so nuff said. 3rd Strike has its tiers, I play the game a
> > lot so the list is as follows
> >
> > 1.)Yun (SA3)
> > 2.)Ken (SA3)
> > 3.)Chun Li (SA2)
> > 4.)Urien (SA3)
> > 5.)Makoto (SA2)
> > 6.)Dudley (SA3/SA1)
> > 7.)Oro (SA3/SA2)
> > 8.)Ryu (SA1)
> > 9.)Akuma (SA1)
> > 10.)Yang (SA2)
> > 11.)Elena (SA2)
> > 12.)Necro (SA3)
> > 13.)Alex (SA2,SA3 against Hugo)
> > 14.)Ibuki (SA1)
> > 15.)Remy (SA1/SA2)
> > 16.)Hugo (SA1)
> > 17.)Q (SA1/SA2)
> > 18.)Twelve (SA1/SA2)
> > 19.)Sean (SA1/SA2)
> >
> > Watch any tournie vids, and its almost all Yun Chun and Ken with the odd Urien
> > or Dudley thrown in. There are exceptions though, there's a Japanese player
> > called Yamazaki who uses Twelve and finished 4th in the last major tournie,
> > which is amazing seeing as Twelve is the 2nd worst character in the game. What
> > makes 3rd strike so balanced is the Parrying system. If you can parry, you
> > allways have a chance.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.emuchrist.org
> >
>




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It's "used" price at Electronics Boutique isn't bad, it's $34.99, so I was curious why people liked it so much.
I'm also curious how you unlock Tekken 1,2,3, on the PS2 version, if I can play all 4, it might be worth $31.49. *-$3.50 discound for card holders*

They were selling it for $10 new. I wanted to pick up a copy pretty badly because I was interested in getting back into the series (I quit after Tekken 2) and the game had been getting extremely good word of mouth. Sadly, it wasn't ment to be :(

One of these days I'll find it for cheap, damnit.

At least a year or so ago I got King of Fighters 2000/2001 for $15 new, but I'll keep my eyes peeled when I go to Toys R Us again this spring to see if there's any other good deals...

Sorry you didn't get it either...
:(

> You need a cpu that supports SSE (Athlon XP 1400/1.4 ghz P4 or higher) with a
> gfx card that supports hardware t&l (Geforce 2 or higher, or equivalent Radeon
> which I think is the 7000) and either Win XP/2003 or 2000 (2000 is buggy though)
> and 256mb ram.
>
> Id reccomend at least 2.4ghz, a geforce 3 or Radeon 8500, and 512mb ram.
>
>
>
> http://www.emuchrist.org
>

my machine is:
P4 3ghz 800fsb HT
2 gig ram
200 gig HD
All in Wonder X800XT
WinXP Pro Corprate SP1
Logitech Cordless Rumblepad2 (the one that looks like a ps2 controller)

but the thing is will CvS2 well enough (meaning without any gfx bugs/glitches) that it is playable?


I don't think you want to see how my machine is setup.. ;)
http://www.geniv.com/download/quad1.JPG

> > You need a cpu that supports SSE (Athlon XP 1400/1.4 ghz P4 or higher) with a
> > gfx card that supports hardware t&l (Geforce 2 or higher, or equivalent Radeon
> > which I think is the 7000) and either Win XP/2003 or 2000 (2000 is buggy
> though)
> > and 256mb ram.
> >
> > Id reccomend at least 2.4ghz, a geforce 3 or Radeon 8500, and 512mb ram.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.emuchrist.org
> >
>
> my machine is:
> P4 3ghz 800fsb HT
> 2 gig ram
> 200 gig HD
> All in Wonder X800XT
> WinXP Pro Corprate SP1
> Logitech Cordless Rumblepad2 (the one that looks like a ps2 controller)
>
> but the thing is will CvS2 well enough (meaning without any gfx bugs/glitches)
> that it is playable?
>
>
> I don't think you want to see how my machine is setup.. ;)
> http://www.geniv.com/download/quad1.JPG
>


I have a similar setup. If you use the Capcom hack, the game runs full speed most of the time, with the exception of some stages. Other than that, it's very much playable with no major issues (that I've run into anyway, and I've finished the game a number of times on the emulator).

By comparison, Street Fighter III 3rd Strike also runs fairly well but can have gfx issues. Marvel vs Capcom 2 however, slows down considerably if there is a lot of action going on.

> I'm also curious how you unlock Tekken 1,2,3, on the PS2 version

Their unlocked from the get go, but keep in mind they are arcade perfect ports and dont have any of the extra's that the Psx ports had. That means you cant play as the sub bosses or Heihachi in Tekken 1, no Anna Williams or Angel and cant play as Devil in Tekken 2, No Gon and cant play as true ogre in Tekken 3, no FMV intro's and the same generic ending for all characters in all 3 games.On the plus side whilst the Psx ports of 1 & 2 were perfect, 3 wasnt (2d wrap around background instead of 3d, lower resolution and texture quality etc, and some combo's that worked in the arcade didnt work on the Psx) so its nice to have an arcade perfect port of that.

There is an arcade perfect port of Starblade that you can play while the game is loading, but only the first level. You can unlock the full game by playing the Devil Within mini game. Agin, its an arcade perfect port and not the same as the Psx port (which looked a lot better).



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Stupid ass time lock deal though. Does the PS2 version allow you to save and what not? Maybe if you left it running for a few weeks then you'd be able to get Ganryu and Wang.

> > I'm also curious how you unlock Tekken 1,2,3, on the PS2 version
>
> Their unlocked from the get go, but keep in mind they are arcade perfect ports
> and dont have any of the extra's that the Psx ports had. That means you cant
> play as the sub bosses or Heihachi in Tekken 1, no Anna Williams or Angel and
> cant play as Devil in Tekken 2, No Gon and cant play as true ogre in Tekken 3,
> no FMV intro's and the same generic ending for all characters in all 3 games.On
> the plus side whilst the Psx ports of 1 & 2 were perfect, 3 wasnt (2d wrap
> around background instead of 3d, lower resolution and texture quality etc, and
> some combo's that worked in the arcade didnt work on the Psx) so its nice to
> have an arcade perfect port of that.
>
> There is an arcade perfect port of Starblade that you can play while the game is
> loading, but only the first level. You can unlock the full game by playing the
> Devil Within mini game. Agin, its an arcade perfect port and not the same as the
> Psx port (which looked a lot better).
>
>
>
> http://www.emuchrist.org
>

Because I didn't see an option to play them on the Tekken 5 CD. Was it on another CD? or is there a submenu I didn't see?

I'll rent it again if I get to try the 3 Tekken games as well...