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SubjectStreet Fighter 3: Third Strike advice wanted new Reply to this message
Posted byNimmers
Posted on04/25/06 06:01 AM



Hi all,

I would like some advice about this game.

I have some really good PC arcade sticks from http://www.ozstick.com.au/ and I want to be able to play Street Fighter 3: Third Strike becaus me and some friends are looking at getting into the local tournament scene. The tourney cabinets use the same Sanwa joysticks as the ones in my USB sticks.

Here's my options as I see them:

1. Buy the arcade board and a cabinet.
Pros:
-arcade perfect
Cons:
-Expensive :(
-Have to get the CPS3 boards battery changed

2. Buy a dreamcast and a pair of dreamcast sticks
Pros:
-Cheaper than 1
Cons:
-Not quite arcade perfect but good enough
-The dreamcast joysticks aren't as good as the ones I already own
-More hardware lying around just for one game

3. Dreamcast emulator, buy third strike off ebay and use my current sticks
Pros:
-Cheapest
Cons:
-Not even sure if this is viable (can anyone tell me?) I tried "chancast" but while it ran it was too glitchy to play. Is this because the emulator can't run it or because I'm a newb?

4. Anyone have an option I haven't thought of?




SubjectRe: Street Fighter 3: Third Strike advice wanted new Reply to this message
Posted byLilwolf
Posted on04/25/06 01:00 PM



There are people who are selling prehacked dreamcast joysticks over at www.arcadecontrols.com

use that with a dreamcast and the joystick of your dreams and you have yourself a cab. heck, do the 15hz vga hack like I did and you have arcade monitor going

A dreamcast in an arcade cabinet is amazingly easy and some great games. I played the heck out of mine for a year... haven't done much recently though.

> Hi all,
>
> I would like some advice about this game.
>
> I have some really good PC arcade sticks from http://www.ozstick.com.au/ and I
> want to be able to play Street Fighter 3: Third Strike becaus me and some
> friends are looking at getting into the local tournament scene. The tourney
> cabinets use the same Sanwa joysticks as the ones in my USB sticks.
>
> Here's my options as I see them:
>
> 1. Buy the arcade board and a cabinet.
> Pros:
> -arcade perfect
> Cons:
> -Expensive :(
> -Have to get the CPS3 boards battery changed
>
> 2. Buy a dreamcast and a pair of dreamcast sticks
> Pros:
> -Cheaper than 1
> Cons:
> -Not quite arcade perfect but good enough
> -The dreamcast joysticks aren't as good as the ones I already own
> -More hardware lying around just for one game
>
> 3. Dreamcast emulator, buy third strike off ebay and use my current sticks
> Pros:
> -Cheapest
> Cons:
> -Not even sure if this is viable (can anyone tell me?) I tried "chancast" but
> while it ran it was too glitchy to play. Is this because the emulator can't run
> it or because I'm a newb?
>
> 4. Anyone have an option I haven't thought of?
>





SubjectForget the DC version, get the Ps2 or X-Box ports new Reply to this message
Posted byJohnick
Posted on04/25/06 09:41 PM



> 1. Buy the arcade board and a cabinet.
> Pros:
> -arcade perfect
> Cons:
> -Expensive :(
> -Have to get the CPS3 boards battery changed

Agreed

> 2. Buy a dreamcast and a pair of dreamcast sticks
> Pros:
> -Cheaper than 1
> Cons:
> -Not quite arcade perfect but good enough
> -The dreamcast joysticks aren't as good as the ones I already own
> -More hardware lying around just for one game
>
> 3. Dreamcast emulator, buy third strike off ebay and use my current sticks
> Pros:
> -Cheapest
> Cons:
> -Not even sure if this is viable (can anyone tell me?) I tried "chancast" but
> while it ran it was too glitchy to play. Is this because the emulator can't run
> it or because I'm a newb?
>
> 4. Anyone have an option I haven't thought of?

Regardless of if you emulate it or not, if your serious about playing the game at a competitive level, the DC port sucks.

Problems with the DC port.

1. Input lag. Casual gamers wont notice it, but its there. This makes the timing for parrying and hit confirming different then the arcade. The Ps2 and X-Box ports dont have this.

2. No unblockables. This makes playing Urien and Oro totally different then the arcade. This is because the DC port is based on the second revision of the arcade version (which most people dont like or play if given a choice) that had the unblockables removed. The Ps2 and X-Box have the unblockables intact, not only that, they have a setting in the options to change between old and new revision (its set to old by default) just in case you want to make it like the DC port. Most tournies use the old version.

3. Some combo's and juggles that work in the arcade dont work on the DC , characters like Yun and Dudley are effected the most.Ps2 and X-Box dont have this problem.

4. DC uses arranged (remixed) music which is different to the arcades. Doesnt effect gameplay, but still. Ps2 and X-Box let you choose between original (arcade) and arranged (DC).

Most of the worlds best 3rd strike players like K.O (worlds best player), Frankie3s (pobabley the best Ryu player in the US, if not the world) and Daigo (worlds 2nd best player, he's the guy playing as Ken in that video where he has no health and parries all of Chun Li's sa2 to win) wont play the DC version because it messes up there timing when they play in the arcade. Yet they are fine with the Ps2 port, there's even video's of Daigo playing Billykane (Frances best Yun player) on the Ps2 port.

DC has the worst port of 3rd Strike, end of story. Rockefeller (one of the best Urien players in the US) does commentry on a lot of the US ranking battle video's for 3rd strike. In a recent arcade ranking battle, Frankie3s missed a few setups and blamed the cabinets sticks, and Rock joked "Yea dude, this is totally at home on a Dreamcast". You can download the video at Combovideos.com if you need proof.

The DC port is fine for casual gamers to practice on, and it served us well from 2000 to 2004, but its now inferior.



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SubjectRe: Forget the DC version, get the Ps2 or X-Box ports Reply to this message
Posted byNimmers
Posted on04/26/06 07:55 AM



Thanks so much for the good advice I already have an Xbox and had no idea Third Strike was available for it.







SubjectStreet fighter anniversary edition -nt- new Reply to this message
Posted byBuveed
Posted on04/26/06 02:26 PM



> Thanks so much for the good advice I already have an Xbox and had no idea Third
> Strike was available for it.
>





SubjectAbout the Xbox Version new Reply to this message
Posted byJojo32
Posted on04/29/06 12:15 PM



I agree with Johnnick on everything he said, (and I have both the PS2 and DC versions) just wanted to add that I've also heard from members on Shoryuken.com and SNKCAPCOM.com (scene people) that the Xbox version, as it came out after the PS2 version is the most arcade perfect insofar as its identical to the PS2 version gameplay wise (already a great thing) but also has arcade perfect resolution which allegedly the PS2 version was either slightly off, or had the right ratio at a different resolution so the sprites were not as crisp onscreen as the arcade version. I can tell you that the DC version was completely off resolution wise (plugged in both systems side by side to do comparisons) PS2 version looks just like the arcade res, but again the sprites are a bit fuzzy (allegedly the Xbox version's is not -- though i've not played the xbox port).

Long story short, get either the PS2 or Xbox versions, both are identical, but get the Xbox version if you want sprites as clear as possible (fuzzyness on PS2 is not noticable really, just saying from the arcade perfection standpoint).

If you got a 'box, get it for that, end of story :D

P.S. After you get that game, be sure and get a good adapter for your sticks ;) Go to http://www.liksang.com">http://www.play-asia.com">http://www.liksang.com or [url]www.play-asia.com if you don't already have a place to get em.

If you live in the US, the Xbox version is 20 bucks, and the adapters are like 15-20 bucks each, still all told, alot cheaper than your original options 1 or 2 heh.


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