I am looking at buying a new Pocket PC 2002 device and would love to run MAMECE. The Toshiba is a nice unit, but its nav pad is a bit soft (it feels like it may give out after intensive usage). The 3800 series Ipaq has a great screen and has a button on the top right hand corner for using in landscape mode (Does MANECE support landscape ?). I don't like the design of the HP (too many reason to go into here !). However, the ipaq and toshiba only support 4 way movement on the nav pad. The new casio supports 8 way movement. What movement does MANE CE support ? Which would be the best for gaming ? Any thoughts. Thanks