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SubjectLandscape mode new Reply to this message
Posted byAnonymous (63.166.24.2)
Posted on01/17/01 08:10 PM



I tried to run Lode Runner in regular portrait mode and only the left half of the screen showed up on the right half of my screen. So I put it in landscape mode with Jimmy Software Landscape. Mame starts OK, but when I select Lode Runner, it locks up. Is this supported?




Subjectno (nt) new Reply to this message
Posted byMarconelly!
Posted on01/17/01 09:35 PM



> I tried to run Lode Runner in regular portrait mode and only the left half of
> the screen showed up on the right half of my screen. So I put it in landscape
> mode with Jimmy Software Landscape. Mame starts OK, but when I select Lode
> Runner, it locks up. Is this supported?
>





SubjectRe: no (nt) new Reply to this message
Posted byCopester
Posted on01/18/01 00:16 AM



Is this going to be true for all horizontal games?

> > I tried to run Lode Runner in regular portrait mode and only the left half of
> > the screen showed up on the right half of my screen. So I put it in landscape
> > mode with Jimmy Software Landscape. Mame starts OK, but when I select Lode
> > Runner, it locks up. Is this supported?
> >
>





SubjectRe: no (nt) new Reply to this message
Posted byAnonymous (24.129.60.237)
Posted on01/18/01 09:38 PM



I don't think Jimmy's Landscape is the solution for rotating MAME games. MAMECE uses a method of 'direct access' to the screen which is likely to be unaffected by whatever OS tweaks Jimmy does to enable Landscape mode. I'd expect the game select window may rotate sucessfully, but the game-playing window is another matter entirely.

Frankly, I've never really seen much need, because most games require using the directional pad and at least one button at the same time. Doing this isn't very ergonomic with the unit rotated 90 degrees. This is exactly the reason why only one game is rotated in MAMECE-10X: Track & Field, because it only requires button input.

It should be relativly straight-forward to add rotation functionality since it is built into the MAME core. It's just a matter of creating a user control in the front-end and tying it to the proper variable. This would allow die-hards to rotate the screen to their heart's content... Although I doubt such things are very high on Techmaster's list.

> Is this going to be true for all horizontal games?
>
> > > I tried to run Lode Runner in regular portrait mode and only the left half
> of
> > > the screen showed up on the right half of my screen. So I put it in
> landscape
> > > mode with Jimmy Software Landscape. Mame starts OK, but when I select Lode
> > > Runner, it locks up. Is this supported?
> > >
> >
>





SubjectRe: no (nt) new Reply to this message
Posted byCopester
Posted on01/18/01 11:13 PM



The underlying problem is that the horizontal games I've tried don't fit on the screen (I've tried LR and Defender). If that was fixed, screen rotation wouldn't needed. Perhaps in the FAQ, a tutorial on the compile process could be included so that people who need to tweak their Mame version can try to learn how to do so.


> I don't think Jimmy's Landscape is the solution for rotating MAME games. MAMECE
> uses a method of 'direct access' to the screen which is likely to be unaffected
> by whatever OS tweaks Jimmy does to enable Landscape mode. I'd expect the game
> select window may rotate sucessfully, but the game-playing window is another
> matter entirely.
>
> Frankly, I've never really seen much need, because most games require using the
> directional pad and at least one button at the same time. Doing this isn't very
> ergonomic with the unit rotated 90 degrees. This is exactly the reason why only
> one game is rotated in MAMECE-10X: Track & Field, because it only requires
> button input.
>
> It should be relativly straight-forward to add rotation functionality since it
> is built into the MAME core. It's just a matter of creating a user control in
> the front-end and tying it to the proper variable. This would allow die-hards
> to rotate the screen to their heart's content... Although I doubt such things
> are very high on Techmaster's list.
>
> > Is this going to be true for all horizontal games?
> >
> > > > I tried to run Lode Runner in regular portrait mode and only the left half
> > of
> > > > the screen showed up on the right half of my screen. So I put it in
> > landscape
> > > > mode with Jimmy Software Landscape. Mame starts OK, but when I select
> Lode
> > > > Runner, it locks up. Is this supported?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





SubjectRe: no (nt) Reply to this message
Posted byAnonymous (24.129.60.237)
Posted on01/18/01 11:25 PM



Well, those games inherently have a greater horizontal resolution than the device. Rotating the screen is the only way to fit the entire screen on the display. To keep it horizontal, one would have to have it drop columns of pixels. I discussed this at length in a prior post. Perhaps it hasn't yet fallen off the end of the message board's short memory...

I certainly agree what a step-by-step on how to compile would be excellent. But first Techmaster would need to post his source before others can compile it.

Darren

> The underlying problem is that the horizontal games I've tried don't fit on the
> screen (I've tried LR and Defender). If that was fixed, screen rotation
> wouldn't needed. Perhaps in the FAQ, a tutorial on the compile process could be
> included so that people who need to tweak their Mame version can try to learn
> how to do so.
>
>
> > I don't think Jimmy's Landscape is the solution for rotating MAME games.
> MAMECE
> > uses a method of 'direct access' to the screen which is likely to be
> unaffected
> > by whatever OS tweaks Jimmy does to enable Landscape mode. I'd expect the
> game
> > select window may rotate sucessfully, but the game-playing window is another
> > matter entirely.
> >
> > Frankly, I've never really seen much need, because most games require using
> the
> > directional pad and at least one button at the same time. Doing this isn't
> very
> > ergonomic with the unit rotated 90 degrees. This is exactly the reason why
> only
> > one game is rotated in MAMECE-10X: Track & Field, because it only requires
> > button input.
> >
> > It should be relativly straight-forward to add rotation functionality since it
> > is built into the MAME core. It's just a matter of creating a user control in
> > the front-end and tying it to the proper variable. This would allow die-hards
> > to rotate the screen to their heart's content... Although I doubt such things
> > are very high on Techmaster's list.
> >
> > > Is this going to be true for all horizontal games?
> > >
> > > > > I tried to run Lode Runner in regular portrait mode and only the left
> half
> > > of
> > > > > the screen showed up on the right half of my screen. So I put it in
> > > landscape
> > > > > mode with Jimmy Software Landscape. Mame starts OK, but when I select
> > Lode
> > > > > Runner, it locks up. Is this supported?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





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