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Subjectneoragex.com needs hosting. Reply to this message
Posted byNeural_Phantom
Posted on08/29/05 09:04 AM



Anyone prepared to sacrifice some disk space and bandwidth, or recommend someone who may be able to? Please don’t attempt to flame me, this is NOT a troll but a serious request:

http://s13.invisionfree.com/NeoRAGEx/index.php?s=eb5073aca47efc13a095d376ffc881bc&showtopic=21

Thanks.


SubjectRe: neoragex.com needs hosting. new Reply to this message
Posted by[Pi]
Posted on08/29/05 09:54 AM



> Please don’t attempt to flame me, this is NOT a troll but a
> serious request:

Asking for rom hosting and also hosting hacked versions of NeoRageX (when the authors asked for it to not be hacked!) might not be a troll, but certainly can't be taken very seriously in this board.

Pi - The meanings of all motions, shapes and sounds
Arcade news, emulator archives and gamelists at CAESAR


SubjectRe: neoragex.com needs hosting. new Reply to this message
Posted byNeural_Phantom
Posted on08/29/05 03:38 PM



So, you are claiming that you rip all the ROM's that you use, I suppose? Janne and Anders (authors of NeoRAGEx) asking for NeoRAGEx not to be hacked? Hmmm, I can only assume that you are referring to the days when they were still working on NeoRAGEx actively and individuals were attempting to hack NeoRAGE/x to add sound and extra ROM support etc. However, as it stands they have halted the project and without these hacks a lot would not be possible, for example NeoRAGEx would not run Windows XP. In short, your response seems very ‘narrow’ (in the context of your thinking) and that kind of attitude does not support the ethos of the emulation community. If anything, Janne and Anders should make NeoRAGEx open source rather than individuals having to hack the executable, this would allow their initial good work to be continued and improved upon for the benefit of all.

> > Please don’t attempt to flame me, this is NOT a troll but a
> > serious request:
>
> Asking for rom hosting and also hosting hacked versions of NeoRageX (when the
> authors asked for it to not be hacked!) might not be a troll, but certainly
> can't be taken very seriously in this board.
>
> Pi - The meanings of all motions, shapes and sounds
> Arcade news, emulator archives and gamelists at CAESAR
>



SubjectRe: neoragex.com needs hosting. new Reply to this message
Posted by[Pi]
Posted on08/29/05 06:01 PM



> In short, your response seems very ‘narrow’
> (in the context of your thinking) and that kind of attitude does not support the
> ethos of the emulation community.

1. I do not talk in behalf of the emulation community, and I hope you don't do either.
2. I'm talking in the context of *this* board, where NeoRageX hacks are frowned upon, and it's forbidden to talk about distribution of illegal roms.

I'm not narrow thinked, you know. I was just brief. I don't think that distributing a 15 year old game, downloading it and using it when you barely have any option other than a lousy port in a crappy handheld is too immoral, but I'm not judging that right now.

Moreover, I wasn't flaming you, just pointing out that your request was very out of place in this board. Any longstanding regular here, including Ironman (the FAQ writer) and the moderator would possibly agree in this point.



> If anything, Janne and Anders should make
> NeoRAGEx open source rather than individuals having to hack the executable, this
> would allow their initial good work to be continued and improved upon for the
> benefit of all.

That's not your decision. They said they didn't want people to hack it, regardless of the active or dormant status of the emulator itself. I think they wanted to actually *rewrite* it from scratch because the code was useless in that form. Still, they allowed us to use it for free; but that doesn't make the emulator "ours" or give us any right to abuse it in any way. I think that hacking it, specifically against its authors' wishes, is abusive. I wouldn't like my own work to be abused like this. Again, this is not double morality, just respect for other's work. It was their decision to not make it open source. NeoRageX is an obsolete and inaccurate emulator nowadays, it was good (and lighting fast!) in the old times but any other emulator currently maintained is one hundred times better and doesn't need to be hacked to death just to be able to play hacked roms.

Pi - The meanings of all motions, shapes and sounds
Arcade news, emulator archives and gamelists at CAESAR


SubjectRe: neoragex.com needs hosting. new Reply to this message
Posted byJan_Klaassen
Posted on08/30/05 12:26 PM



> I think that
> hacking it, specifically against its authors' wishes, is abusive. I wouldn't
> like my own work to be abused like this.

Moreover, biting the hand that feeds is plain stupid, but I guess morons don't think that deep. That's why they're morons, and let's be honest, who else would use NeoRageX these days, given the state of Neo Geo emulation in other emulators?





SubjectRe: neoragex.com needs hosting. new Reply to this message
Posted by[Haze]
Posted on09/01/05 06:54 PM



>> for example NeoRAGEx would not run Windows XP.

that would be a *good* thing. as much as I'm willing to promote the use of a good selection of emulators the likes of Kawaks, FBA, Nebula and MAME are better than NRX in every way, and if you're running XP you can run those. If you're running XP on something that can't run those then NRX is the least of your concerns.

Its a buggy, obsolete emulator which has been surpassed in every way by a wide selection of current emulators. Its quite depressing that people spend so much time hacking this closed source piece of junk when there are SO MANY alternatives, neogeo is probably the most overemulated system... yet nobody gives a thought to making *legitimate* improvements to the existing batch of alternate emus.

The authors did request it not be hacked a lot time after its death.

It was good in its day, but its day is long long gone and a bunch of cheap hacks aren't going to change that as the flaws are too deep.



Tell Me Why You're Here, I Came To Disappear
http://haze.mame.net/


SubjectRe: neoragex.com needs hosting. new Reply to this message
Posted byclem
Posted on09/02/05 06:23 PM



my suggestion:

make neoragex.com into a neogeo emulation portal which promotes nebula :)

clem

> Anyone prepared to sacrifice some disk space and bandwidth, or recommend someone
> who may be able to? Please don’t attempt to flame me, this is NOT a troll but a
> serious request:
>
http://s13.inv> isionfree.com/NeoRAGEx/index.php?s=eb5073aca47efc13a095d376ffc881bc&showtopic=21
>
> Thanks.
>



SubjectRe: neoragex.com needs hosting. new Reply to this message
Posted byProphet (RG)
Posted on09/05/05 07:57 PM



You are in unfriendly territory, go elsewhere.

I personally emailed RAGE team a while back and they told me they don't want NeoRAGEx to be hacked. Not at all.

Thread closed.

> So, you are claiming that you rip all the ROM's that you use, I suppose? Janne
> and Anders (authors of NeoRAGEx) asking for NeoRAGEx not to be hacked? Hmmm, I
> can only assume that you are referring to the days when they were still working
> on NeoRAGEx actively and individuals were attempting to hack NeoRAGE/x to add
> sound and extra ROM support etc. However, as it stands they have halted the
> project and without these hacks a lot would not be possible, for example
> NeoRAGEx would not run Windows XP. In short, your response seems very ‘narrow’
> (in the context of your thinking) and that kind of attitude does not support the
> ethos of the emulation community. If anything, Janne and Anders should make
> NeoRAGEx open source rather than individuals having to hack the executable, this
> would allow their initial good work to be continued and improved upon for the
> benefit of all.
>
> > > Please don’t attempt to flame me, this is NOT a troll but a
> > > serious request:
> >
> > Asking for rom hosting and also hosting hacked versions of NeoRageX (when the
> > authors asked for it to not be hacked!) might not be a troll, but certainly
> > can't be taken very seriously in this board.
> >
> > Pi - The meanings of all motions, shapes and sounds
> > Arcade news, emulator archives and gamelists at CAESAR
> >
>


-Prophet-
www.retrogames.com


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