This is probably my last post regarding PacDude's so called banning on vpforums. I don't really pay any attention to what he posts or any of the tables he has created. Can't say as I've ever played any of them. The only reason I posted anything here was to demonstrate that there are other points of views than PD's. Any time that he makes people mad enough in the vpforums to get one of his threads deleted or moved he always comes here and does his song and dance about being a victim. If nobody else spoke up you would never know anyone's side but his and you would be forced to believe that everyone in the vp community is against him for no reason.

Well I'm affraid you're only getting half the story. His half. The reason the moderators and supporters of vpforums are forced to take action against him has nothing to do with any kind of "vendetta". Nearly everyone will agree that he is good at what he does and his skills are valuable to the VP community, but his lack of respect for other people is highly destructive to the community. I'm not saying he's the only person that causes problems but the whole modding issue and lack of cooperation and trust has caused many good developers to completely give up on VP. Even the developers of VP have had enough. The primary author has split the scene completely and the co-author is likely to let the current release die when it expires, and not release another version. This is sad that a handful of people have this much affect on what "should" be a fun hobby for all.

You may not find recreations of older EM machines your cup of tea. I can see how they wouldn't be fun for people that aren't old enough to remember what games were like before ROMS. And for the ROM collectors an EM game doesn't add anything to your collection. But there are hundreds of EM's left to do and only a few dozen of the toy box pins left. The sad thing is you think success is based not on quality but quantity. Everyone rushes out to download the latest crappy recreation of a Stern game that's covered with plastic dolls and toys and think they're getting a quality game. Boring. Real pins don't need toys or gimmicks, and you don't have to spend all your time reading rules on a dmd so you can make the skill shot worth 8 billion. Again, boring.

Anyways, those who only see one side of the arguement can stay on their side, and think whatever they want. The rest of us will go about our business making tables that real pin lovers appreciate.

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