> Well, it's the holiday season and I'm enjoying what time I have with my family.
> I have poked in and out of VPForums for the last 2 weeks, mostly to approve
> new/updated tables that have been uploaded. I haven't read any particular
> posts. I haven't been ignoring anyone either. When I find the time, I respond
> to emails. I'm a very busy person like I'm sure the rest of you are (especially
> around the holidays).
> I had a 2 hour discussion with Kinsey on the phone. Kinsey is the Senior
> Administrator, with BJ and Plumb being full Administrators as well. I needed
> to find out what was going on since I've been away. I don't have any problems
> or doubts about the choices of Administrators or Mods for VPForums. Only a
> select group of people have a problem with them because they can't follow the
> rules and guidelines put in place on a PRIVATELY RUN forum. This group seems to
> believe that they should be allowed to say anything they wish and do anything
> they want within the forum and community. They claim it's VPForums tearing the
> community apart. Well, I'm here to say that it's the group that's always
> arguing about the same crap over and over that is tearing apart the community!
> The rules and guidelines are there to protect table creators, as well as keep
> the chaos to a minimum when there are almost 20,000 members. Shiva laid many of
> the ground rules, and VPForums has kept them and added a few as issues were
> headed off before they became forseen problems. We have recommended to this
> group on many occasions that if they feel we are a dictatorship, then start a
> forum of their own with no rules as they wish, and see how well it does. It's
> been 6 months and I haven't seen one! Why? Because it takes a lot of work,
> dedication, and patience to do something like this. We don't want to break up
> the community, but we do want to filter out the ones who do nothing but
> constantly cause trouble. There's constructive criticism, and then there's just
> plain bitching about everything... over... and over!
> Bottom line of the above paragraph... I put my trust in the Admins/Mods to keep
> the forums in shape, and I believe (aside from what the same 6 people say) that
> they are doing a great job! My main role in all of this is to keep the forums
> working, upgrade the software, keep the table pages updated, etc... basically
> technical support. I am not going to respond to people griping about a decision
> that is almost always made by the entire Admin/Mod staff. Personal issues with
> a user do not come into play when they have to make a major decision like
> suspending or banning a user! It is documented and discussed in depth, and they
> don't take lightly to doing such a thing to someone. We do not ban disagreing
> users... we've been doing this long enoung to know what's a disagreement and
> what's just another bitch session. And when the rules are broken, we are not
> going to sit back and let it happen. A person who breaks the rules never
> believe they break the rules so it turns into a bitch session here! Everyone
> gets warned when their doing something wrong within the forums by PM, and if it
> continues they get restricted for a few days. If it keeps on, then they get
> As for the issue about Black, tonight is the first I've heard about this! I
> have not talked to Black in a month. Black is not 'holding VPForums hostage' by
> saying he's leaving. There is a lot going on with Black, and he has his
> reasons... NONE of which have to do with VPForums. I hope he doesn't stay away
> for long, but it's HIS decision! I wish him well and I hope he gets everything
> sorted out. Thanks for everything you've done Black!
> We have nothing to hide at VPForums... we are doing the best possible job with
> such a large site, and I know those that want to be part of a good community
> will continue to visit and contribute to VPForums. Things will get back on
> track once the trash is emptied!
> Everyone have a great holiday season!
Look PacDude and I don't see eye to eye and frankly I'm unhappy at how things have went too far, but in all honesty it seems blatantly clear some people are power tripping and even more clear you've turned a blind eye to it...
I hope I'm wrong and if I am I'm sorry. It does seem that moderators are abusing power, being intolerant, and something has to give...
At least you and your gang don't have power here, thank goodness for that as more people will come here as you and your gang drive 'em out of VPForum... Remember new forums can be created and as much as I like people at VPForum I can't condone their actions...
The new and improved King of Lamers 2002!