Sure, videogames are fun and all, but there's something about pinball machines that they can't match. You see, raster videogames are pretty much the same thing every single time you play them. I could play any CPS2 fighting game or any game for that matter, and my game playing experience is the same every time. The computer uses the same old patterns, the enemies emerge from the exact same places, and it's just way too predictable. I mean, I could play 50 matches of any fighting game and make every match completely identical because the computer reacts in the same way to everything I do, every time. On the other hand, when you play a pinball machine, there's NO telling what's going to happen. It's nearly impossible to predict how it's going to ricochet off the bumpers or where the ball's going to go at any moment, and EVERY single game you play is completely different. Plus, because the ball's moving around so fast and so unpredictably, you have to stay on your toes and keep glued to the game. If you break your concentration for a split second or try to simply mash the buttons when the ball gets near your flippers, you're going to lose. On the other hand, mindless button mashing can get you through many fighting games quite well. Anyway, going to play some more High Speed 2: The Getaway and Twilight Zone....later

...compared to a proper pinball any day. Being able to play all those brilliant tables again (God, the amount of quarters I spent on the stuff!) is the dog's bollocks! Thanks a million to everyone putting some effort into this all.

> ...compared to a proper pinball any day. Being able to play all those brilliant
> tables again (God, the amount of quarters I spent on the stuff!) is the dog's
> bollocks! Thanks a million to everyone putting some effort into this all.
>


-Never underestimate....."The Power"- Rod Sterling

> Sure, videogames are fun and all, but there's something about pinball machines
> that they can't match. You see, raster videogames are pretty much the same thing
> every single time you play them. I could play any CPS2 fighting game or any game
> for that matter, and my game playing experience is the same every time. The
> computer uses the same old patterns, the enemies emerge from the exact same
> places, and it's just way too predictable. I mean, I could play 50 matches of
> any fighting game and make every match completely identical because the computer
> reacts in the same way to everything I do, every time. On the other hand, when
> you play a pinball machine, there's NO telling what's going to happen. It's
> nearly impossible to predict how it's going to ricochet off the bumpers or where
> the ball's going to go at any moment, and EVERY single game you play is
> completely different. Plus, because the ball's moving around so fast and so
> unpredictably, you have to stay on your toes and keep glued to the game. If you
> break your concentration for a split second or try to simply mash the buttons
> when the ball gets near your flippers, you're going to lose. On the other hand,
> mindless button mashing can get you through many fighting games quite well.
> Anyway, going to play some more High Speed 2: The Getaway and Twilight
> Zone....later

That's 'cos with video games, you're playing against the computer's AI, which is a strict set of rules and instructions that never varies unless it's programmed to. With pinball, it's you versus a very different strict set of rules: physics. Combine that with the unpredictable bumper strength and trying to predict where the ball's going to be when it's headed for one of the outlanes and mentally calculating which way and with what strength to nudge the table or exactly what point you should tap the flippers to get the ball up a particular ramp, and you have a very frenetic, fast-paced game that requires far more mental agility than any video game.

That's part of the reason why I prefer pinball over video games - especially since many games of today concentrate too much on looking flashy & attractive as opposed to having variable gameplay & surprises like pinball has.

> Sure, videogames are fun and all, but there's something about pinball machines
> that they can't match. You see, raster videogames are pretty much the same thing
> every single time you play them. I could play any CPS2 fighting game or any game
> for that matter, and my game playing experience is the same every time. The
> computer uses the same old patterns, the enemies emerge from the exact same
> places, and it's just way too predictable. I mean, I could play 50 matches of
> any fighting game and make every match completely identical because the computer
> reacts in the same way to everything I do, every time. On the other hand, when
> you play a pinball machine, there's NO telling what's going to happen. It's
> nearly impossible to predict how it's going to ricochet off the bumpers or where
> the ball's going to go at any moment, and EVERY single game you play is
> completely different. Plus, because the ball's moving around so fast and so
> unpredictably, you have to stay on your toes and keep glued to the game. If you
> break your concentration for a split second or try to simply mash the buttons
> when the ball gets near your flippers, you're going to lose. On the other hand,
> mindless button mashing can get you through many fighting games quite well.
> Anyway, going to play some more High Speed 2: The Getaway and Twilight
> Zone....later
>
>
>
>


Jay
Hardware/Tech Support Moderator

# of bugs found in Windows so far:

devil crash(genesis) or jaki crush(snes).
those two are true master pices of pinball on a videogame.
all the others(dragon's revange, sonic spinball, etc) others just plain suck!

> devil crash(genesis) or jaki crush(snes).
> those two are true master pices of pinball on a videogame.
> all the others(dragon's revange, sonic spinball, etc) others just plain suck!
>
Crue Ball is well done...
Devil Crash is also called Dragons Fury in the U.S., There's a sequel called dragons Revenge as well! :)
>


-"Those who do not partake of emulation politics do not understand the need to preserve arcade games, while those who live politics cannot understand why arcade games are preserved"

i think its good too

> devil crash(genesis) or jaki crush(snes).

Yes, I love Devil's Crash! My TurboExpress saw many hours with that game. Better on the PCE/TGE than the Genesis version. The Gen one has weaker music.

What's Jaki Crush? Devil's Crash for SNES?! Does a working dump exist? If so, I'm off to ROM hunt! :P

-P-

> What's Jaki Crush? Devil's Crash for SNES?! Does a working dump exist? If so,
> I'm off to ROM hunt! :P

Nevermind, got it! Interesting variation on the game. Gotta give it a bit of play time.

Thanks for the tipoff - I love having every version of Devil's Crush, such a good game design. Never has a better video pinball game been made IMO.


-P-

> > What's Jaki Crush? Devil's Crash for SNES?! Does a working dump exist? If so,
> > I'm off to ROM hunt! :P
>
> Nevermind, got it! Interesting variation on the game. Gotta give it a bit of
> play time.
>
> Thanks for the tipoff - I love having every version of Devil's Crush, such a
> good game design. Never has a better video pinball game been made IMO.

Careful - it's called Devil's Crush, not CrAsh as mentioned in some posts. :)

Agreed - if you have a better pinball game for any console then I have a bridge to sell you... :)

Hmm, never knew there were variations for SNES & Genesis so I'll have to go hunting too!

Jay
Hardware/Tech Support Moderator

# of bugs found in Windows so far:

see